Author Topic: How can the Mccanns be 100% innocent - when they haven't been 100% been cleared.  (Read 29983 times)

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Offline kizzy

Poor PJ, so weak and feeble.

Is there any wonder - we all know what happens if you criticize the UK police were PJ were concerned.

Yes they were took off the case.

Every conclusion they came to seems to have been ignored - yet its still no further on today.

PJ believe Maddie is dead .... BKH believe maddie is dead.


Offline kizzy

Why not?
Doesn't Amaral believe that "with the world watching and hundreds of media camped outside" the McCanns shifted Madeleine's remains from pillar to post throughout Portugal - taking in a little day trip to Spain then getting back in time to take her into the church in time to be transferred with the unknown lady to a crematorium.

Aww come on B.

There version of events were never tested,

No recon or time line checked out.

No proof of anyone being in that apartment except the mcs....oh and the 20+ they let in knowing Maddie was not there.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Is there any wonder - we all know what happens if you criticize the UK police were PJ were concerned.

Yes they were took off the case.

Every conclusion they came to seems to have been ignored - yet its still no further on today.

PJ believe Maddie is dead .... BKH believe maddie is dead.
Amaral was taken off the case for breaking judicial secrecy and slagging off the British, not very sensible, not very diplomatic.  It didn’t stop his successor from continuing quietly with the investigation did it? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline kizzy

Amaral was taken off the case for breaking judicial secrecy and slagging off the British, not very sensible, not very diplomatic.  It didn’t stop his successor from continuing quietly with the investigation did it?

Is there any wonder they failed when it seems to me they were not allowed to investigate how they wanted looking at other possibilities. 

Not just the abduction as the mccs claimed.- especially when there was nothing to back abduction up.

It shows they were interfering imo or else why else would he feel a need to slag [as u call it] the UK police in the first place.




Yesterday, in an interview with the respected Diário de Notícias, Mr Amaral accused British detectives of only investigating those leads that Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, wanted following up. "[The British police] have only investigated tips and information developed and worked on for the McCanns, forgetting that the couple are suspects in the death of their daughter Madeleine."

Offline Eleanor

Is there any wonder they failed when it seems to me they were not allowed to investigate how they wanted looking at other possibilities. 

Not just the abduction as the mccs claimed.- especially when there was nothing to back abduction up.

It shows they were interfering imo or else why else would he feel a need to slag [as u call it] the UK police in the first place.




Yesterday, in an interview with the respected Diário de Notícias, Mr Amaral accused British detectives of only investigating those leads that Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, wanted following up. "[The British police] have only investigated tips and information developed and worked on for the McCanns, forgetting that the couple are suspects in the death of their daughter Madeleine."

On what premise did Amaral come to this conclusion?  Or was it just his opinion?

Offline Brietta

Is there any wonder - we all know what happens if you criticize the UK police were PJ were concerned.

Yes they were took off the case.

Every conclusion they came to seems to have been ignored - yet its still no further on today.

PJ believe Maddie is dead .... BKH believe maddie is dead.

What 'conclusions' were those?

The deadly poison that Calpol is or the body fluids swishing around in the boot of the hired Renault?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Aww come on B.

There version of events were never tested,

No recon or time line checked out.

No proof of anyone being in that apartment except the mcs....oh and the 20+ they let in knowing Maddie was not there.

Why did no-one think to arrest them then?  Was it because the PJ under Rebello found not a single solitary shred of any evidence whatsoever to justify even suspecting them let alone arresting and charging them?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Amaral was taken off the case for breaking judicial secrecy and slagging off the British, not very sensible, not very diplomatic.  It didn’t stop his successor from continuing quietly with the investigation did it?

If memory serves me well Amaral had a flakey at the temerity of evidence being forwarded from Britain that it was claimed in an email that an Ocean Club employee was involved in Madeleine's disappearance.

Why did he become tired and emotional about that?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Why did no-one think to arrest them then?  Was it because the PJ under Rebello found not a single solitary shred of any evidence whatsoever to justify even suspecting them let alone arresting and charging them?

One of them got it wrong.  Was it Amaral or was it Rebello?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Is there any wonder they failed when it seems to me they were not allowed to investigate how they wanted looking at other possibilities. 

Not just the abduction as the mccs claimed.- especially when there was nothing to back abduction up.

It shows they were interfering imo or else why else would he feel a need to slag [as u call it] the UK police in the first place.



Yesterday, in an interview with the respected Diário de Notícias, Mr Amaral accused British detectives of only investigating those leads that Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, wanted following up. "[The British police] have only investigated tips and information developed and worked on for the McCanns, forgetting that the couple are suspects in the death of their daughter Madeleine."

Sorry,, but who forbade the Portuguese to investigate how they wanted to and please provide a cite, thanks
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Is there any wonder they failed when it seems to me they were not allowed to investigate how they wanted looking at other possibilities. 

Not just the abduction as the mccs claimed.- especially when there was nothing to back abduction up.

It shows they were interfering imo or else why else would he feel a need to slag [as u call it] the UK police in the first place.




Yesterday, in an interview with the respected Diário de Notícias, Mr Amaral accused British detectives of only investigating those leads that Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, wanted following up. "[The British police] have only investigated tips and information developed and worked on for the McCanns, forgetting that the couple are suspects in the death of their daughter Madeleine."

WOW ✨  I do believe that is exactly the quote that cost him his job!

Well spotted K
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline kizzy

Why did no-one think to arrest them then?  Was it because the PJ under Rebello found not a single solitary shred of any evidence whatsoever to justify even suspecting them let alone arresting and charging them?

You would have thought they would have been all been interviewed separately at least.

But for some reason it seems they were all treat with kid gloves. imo there must be a reason for that.


The Strange Case of Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and the McCanns


Interesting really.
This again is absolutely not the norm. On a daily basis more British citizens have contact with foreign authorities than the total staff of the FCO. It would be simply impossible to give that level of support to everybody. Plus, against jingoistic presumption, a great many Brits who have contact with foreign police are actually criminals.

The British Ambassador in Portugal, John Buck, had been my direct boss in the FCO. he was Deputy Head of Southern European Department when I was Head of Cyprus Section. He and his staff were concerned by contradictions in the McCann’s story. The Embassy warned, in writing, that being perceived as too close to the McCanns might not prove wise. They demanded the instruction from London be reconfirmed. It was.

I know of people’s misgivings because I was told directly. But material was also leaked to a Belgian newspaper confirming what I have said. It was published by the Express, but like so much other material which is not supportive of the McCanns, it got taken down. Fortunately that last link preserved it. It also shows that the FCO continues to refuse Freedom of Information requests for the material on the interesting grounds that it might damage relations with Portugal.

For the avoidance of doubt, I do not believe there was a high level paedophile ring involved. I make no such argument. Nor do I claim to know what happened to Madeleine McCann. But I do believe that the McCanns were less than exemplary parents. I believe that New Labour’s No.10 saw, in typical Blair fashion, a highly photogenic tragedy which there might be popularity in appearing to work on.

And I believe there is a genuine danger that the high profile support from the top of the British government might have put some psychological pressure on the Portuguese investigators and prosecuting officers in their determinations.


Offline Brietta

You would have thought they would have been all been interviewed separately at least.

But for some reason it seems they were all treat with kid gloves. imo there must be a reason for that.


The Strange Case of Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and the McCanns


Interesting really.
This again is absolutely not the norm. On a daily basis more British citizens have contact with foreign authorities than the total staff of the FCO. It would be simply impossible to give that level of support to everybody. Plus, against jingoistic presumption, a great many Brits who have contact with foreign police are actually criminals.

The British Ambassador in Portugal, John Buck, had been my direct boss in the FCO. he was Deputy Head of Southern European Department when I was Head of Cyprus Section. He and his staff were concerned by contradictions in the McCann’s story. The Embassy warned, in writing, that being perceived as too close to the McCanns might not prove wise. They demanded the instruction from London be reconfirmed. It was.

I know of people’s misgivings because I was told directly. But material was also leaked to a Belgian newspaper confirming what I have said. It was published by the Express, but like so much other material which is not supportive of the McCanns, it got taken down. Fortunately that last link preserved it. It also shows that the FCO continues to refuse Freedom of Information requests for the material on the interesting grounds that it might damage relations with Portugal.

For the avoidance of doubt, I do not believe there was a high level paedophile ring involved. I make no such argument. Nor do I claim to know what happened to Madeleine McCann. But I do believe that the McCanns were less than exemplary parents. I believe that New Labour’s No.10 saw, in typical Blair fashion, a highly photogenic tragedy which there might be popularity in appearing to work on.

And I believe there is a genuine danger that the high profile support from the top of the British government might have put some psychological pressure on the Portuguese investigators and prosecuting officers in their determinations.



Have you any conception of how mind bogglingly boring this 2007 fixation your posts portray; how on earth have you failed to notice that the world has moved on to concerns of 2021 and the probable break through of Madeleine's case with a really viable suspect in the frame.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

You would have thought they would have been all been interviewed separately at least.

But for some reason it seems they were all treat with kid gloves. imo there must be a reason for that.


The Strange Case of Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and the McCanns


Interesting really.
This again is absolutely not the norm. On a daily basis more British citizens have contact with foreign authorities than the total staff of the FCO. It would be simply impossible to give that level of support to everybody. Plus, against jingoistic presumption, a great many Brits who have contact with foreign police are actually criminals.

The British Ambassador in Portugal, John Buck, had been my direct boss in the FCO. he was Deputy Head of Southern European Department when I was Head of Cyprus Section. He and his staff were concerned by contradictions in the McCann’s story. The Embassy warned, in writing, that being perceived as too close to the McCanns might not prove wise. They demanded the instruction from London be reconfirmed. It was.

I know of people’s misgivings because I was told directly. But material was also leaked to a Belgian newspaper confirming what I have said. It was published by the Express, but like so much other material which is not supportive of the McCanns, it got taken down. Fortunately that last link preserved it. It also shows that the FCO continues to refuse Freedom of Information requests for the material on the interesting grounds that it might damage relations with Portugal.

For the avoidance of doubt, I do not believe there was a high level paedophile ring involved. I make no such argument. Nor do I claim to know what happened to Madeleine McCann. But I do believe that the McCanns were less than exemplary parents. I believe that New Labour’s No.10 saw, in typical Blair fashion, a highly photogenic tragedy which there might be popularity in appearing to work on.

And I believe there is a genuine danger that the high profile support from the top of the British government might have put some psychological pressure on the Portuguese investigators and prosecuting officers in their determinations.


who wrote that?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

who wrote that?

My guess would be Craig Murray.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....