How can the Mccanns be 100% innocent - when they haven't been 100% been cleared.

[Venturi Swirl]

That's obvious. What isn't obvious is why. I'm no detective but when people say the alarm was raised at or after 10pm why are there people who say they heard about it before or at 10pm?

That night, at around 2200 she learned that Madeleine had disappeared, and together with her colleagues she helped look for her.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EMMA_WILDING.htm

That on the May 03, 2007, at around 22H45, she was in the bar known as ?Mirage? together with her colleagues, whose names are Emma, Shinead, Najoua Hayley and Stacy, which is situated close to the perimeter of the aforementioned resort. After returning from the bathroom, she was informed by her colleague Hayley that a child, of about 3 years of age, and whom was staying at the Ocean Club, had disappeared;
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SUSAN-OWEN.htm

2200 or 2245? Thats a big difference.

Do you really think this is significant?  Did anyone else say the alarm was raised closer to 11pm than 10pm, or is it possible looking at the sum total of witness testimony to arrive at a timeline just as the police have done (and even the PJ concluded it was around 10pm too when the alarm was raised)or do you simply not trust any police force to do their job properly and feel you could do a better job?

[Mr Gray]

That's obvious. What isn't obvious is why. I'm no detective but when people say the alarm was raised at or after 10pm why are there people who say they heard about it before or at 10pm?

That night, at around 2200 she learned that Madeleine had disappeared, and together with her colleagues she helped look for her.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EMMA_WILDING.htm

That on the May 03, 2007, at around 22H45, she was in the bar known as ?Mirage? together with her colleagues, whose names are Emma, Shinead, Najoua Hayley and Stacy, which is situated close to the perimeter of the aforementioned resort. After returning from the bathroom, she was informed by her colleague Hayley that a child, of about 3 years of age, and whom was staying at the Ocean Club, had disappeared;
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SUSAN-OWEN.htm

2200 or 2245? Thats a big difference.

I think it's obvious but as you say you are not a detective

[G-Unit]

That's obvious. What isn't obvious is why. I'm no detective but when people say the alarm was raised at or after 10pm why are there people who say they heard about it before or at 10pm?

That night, at around 2200 she learned that Madeleine had disappeared, and together with her colleagues she helped look for her.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EMMA_WILDING.htm

That on the May 03, 2007, at around 22H45, she was in the bar known as ?Mirage? together with her colleagues, whose names are Emma, Shinead, Najoua Hayley and Stacy, which is situated close to the perimeter of the aforementioned resort. After returning from the bathroom, she was informed by her colleague Hayley that a child, of about 3 years of age, and whom was staying at the Ocean Club, had disappeared;
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SUSAN-OWEN.htm

2200 or 2245? Thats a big difference.

Who was the English tourist who arrived at the Millenium at around 2200?

When questioned about the disappearance, she says she heard about it on that night at about 22.00 when an English tourist arrived at the Millenium restaurant to ask whether anyone had seen a lost little girl.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA_ROSA.htm

[Venturi Swirl]

Who was the English tourist who arrived at the Millenium at around 2200?

When questioned about the disappearance, she says she heard about it on that night at about 22.00 when an English tourist arrived at the Millenium restaurant to ask whether anyone had seen a lost little girl.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA_ROSA.htm

It really doesn't matter so don't fret about it.

[Eleanor]

It really doesn't matter so don't fret about it.

This is such ridiculous nit picking.  So some people weren't very precise about the time.

Madeleine has gone missing. Quick, check the time.  Really?

[Brietta]

Who was the English tourist who arrived at the Millenium at around 2200?

When questioned about the disappearance, she says she heard about it on that night at about 22.00 when an English tourist arrived at the Millenium restaurant to ask whether anyone had seen a lost little girl.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARIA_ROSA.htm

Re: How can the Mccanns be 100% innocent - when they haven't been 100% been cleared.

Sceptics know full well that the McCanns had absolutely nothing at all to do with Madeleine's disappearance in the nonsensical way ascribed to them and the hatred knows no bounds

Which is why sceptics have spent so much time and effort making all sorts of accusations and failed attempts to disrupt family life that they can come up with.

Ten years into Madeleine's disappearance yet another hateful petition raised its ugly head ~ this time making the attempt to have madeleine's siblings removed from a safe and secure environment and into care.
If that despicable attempt isn't child abuse, I don't know what is.

FREE THE MCCANN TWINS FROM CRIMINALLY SUSPICIOUS AND NEGLECTFUL PARENTS This petition had 62 supporters
https://www.change.org/p/national-free-the-mccann-twins-from-criminally-suspicious-and-neglectful-parents

[kizzy]

Re: How can the Mccanns be 100% innocent - when they haven't been 100% been cleared.

Sceptics know full well that the McCanns had absolutely nothing at all to do with Madeleine's disappearance in the nonsensical way ascribed to them and the hatred knows no bounds

Which is why sceptics have spent so much time and effort making all sorts of accusations and failed attempts to disrupt family life that they can come up with.

Ten years into Madeleine's disappearance yet another hateful petition raised its ugly head ~ this time making the attempt to have madeleine's siblings removed from a safe and secure environment and into care.
If that despicable attempt isn't child abuse, I don't know what is.

FREE THE MCCANN TWINS FROM CRIMINALLY SUSPICIOUS AND NEGLECTFUL PARENTS This petition had 62 supporters
https://www.change.org/p/national-free-the-mccann-twins-from-criminally-suspicious-and-neglectful-parents

Sceptics know full well that the McCanns had absolutely nothing at all to do with Madeleine's disappearance in the nonsensical way ascribed to them and the hatred knows no bounds


Bit OTT there B - how can not believing the mccs version of events be described as you have posted.

Nothing it seems was ever checked to say it happened the way the mcs  said it did.

[Brietta]

Sceptics know full well that the McCanns had absolutely nothing at all to do with Madeleine's disappearance in the nonsensical way ascribed to them and the hatred knows no bounds


Bit OTT there B - how can not believing the mccs version of events be described as you have posted.

Nothing it seems was ever checked to say it happened the way the mcs  said it did.

That is an incredibly inaccurate misstatement surely.  You seem to be asserting that the Policia Judicairia didn't check out witness statements.  Is that your belief?

I have posted an example of the horrid attacks the McCanns have been subjected to over the years.  One accusing them of child abuse while failing miserably to recognise the abuse to which the petition organisers and all sixty two signatories were actually in the process of perpetrating in their haste to berate the parents.

Just something along the lines of the malignant sentiment of your query in the thread topic.

A family has been made aware that there is a high probability that a rapist and paedophile might have been involved in their daughter's disappearance.
As they await the outcome of the investigation into that your thoughts are taken up with casting more slurs at them.

Quite extraordinary and really very sad 😢 very sad indeed.

[G-Unit]

Re: How can the Mccanns be 100% innocent - when they haven't been 100% been cleared.

Sceptics know full well that the McCanns had absolutely nothing at all to do with Madeleine's disappearance in the nonsensical way ascribed to them and the hatred knows no bounds

Which is why sceptics have spent so much time and effort making all sorts of accusations and failed attempts to disrupt family life that they can come up with.

Ten years into Madeleine's disappearance yet another hateful petition raised its ugly head ~ this time making the attempt to have madeleine's siblings removed from a safe and secure environment and into care.
If that despicable attempt isn't child abuse, I don't know what is.

FREE THE MCCANN TWINS FROM CRIMINALLY SUSPICIOUS AND NEGLECTFUL PARENTS This petition had 62 supporters
https://www.change.org/p/national-free-the-mccann-twins-from-criminally-suspicious-and-neglectful-parents

Are you suggesting a connection between my post and yours? I'm discussing statements which cast doubt on the alarm being raised at 10pm (or 10:14 according to Gerry McCann), not child neglect.

[Venturi Swirl]

Are you suggesting a connection between my post and yours? I'm discussing statements which cast doubt on the alarm being raised at 10pm (or 10:14 according to Gerry McCann), not child neglect.

Out of interest how often do you think these has already been discussed on this forum and how many more times do you think you’ll be wanting to discuss them?  Perhaps we could start s brand new thread on the timeline and then a new one on the dogs while we’re at it.  I’m sure there’s probably alot we haven’t already covered on these subjects.

[Eleanor]

Out of interest how often do you think these has already been discussed on this forum and how many more times do you think you’ll be wanting to discuss them?  Perhaps we could start s brand new thread on the timeline and then a new one on the dogs while we’re at it.  I’m sure there’s probably alot we haven’t already covered on these subjects.

Noooo, Purleaze.

Oh, okay then, why not.

[G-Unit]

Out of interest how often do you think these has already been discussed on this forum and how many more times do you think you’ll be wanting to discuss them?  Perhaps we could start s brand new thread on the timeline and then a new one on the dogs while we’re at it.  I’m sure there’s probably alot we haven’t already covered on these subjects.

Is it a discussion when others refuse to discuss it?

[Eleanor]

Is it a discussion when others refuse to discuss it?

Is there some Rule on this Forum that says we have to?

[Venturi Swirl]

Is it a discussion when others refuse to discuss it?

I’m sure Faith or Carly will be only too delighted to discuss it with you, but please do excuse me I have some slow-drying paint here that won’t watch itself.

[G-Unit]

I’m sure Faith or Carly will be only too delighted to discuss it with you, but please do excuse me I have some slow-drying paint here that won’t watch itself.

I don't mind at all if you don't comment on my posts.