Author Topic: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?  (Read 67084 times)

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Offline faithlilly

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #120 on: August 26, 2021, 10:48:51 PM »
Exactly how I feel when I see the quotes of other people.  Good night, faithlilly.

Can I suggest that you pop me on ignore then,
« Last Edit: August 27, 2021, 03:02:42 PM by mrswah »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline rulesapply

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #121 on: August 26, 2021, 10:50:44 PM »
Can I suggest that you pop me on ignore then, there’s a good lass/lad?

Patronising, the usual sarcastic but still the same old, same old boring. Nothing new with you, is there? You can suggest whatever you like to whoever you like. You ,just hope they're still bothering to pay attention. Good night.
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Offline faithlilly

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #122 on: August 26, 2021, 10:57:34 PM »


Well if you’re not going to take the initiative then I’m going to have to…sigh!

Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline rulesapply

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #123 on: August 26, 2021, 11:03:14 PM »
Well if you’re not going to take the initiative then I’m going to have to…sigh!
Be in, faithlilly. Sigh away. You doing nothing but sighing is a gift.

Offline Paranoid Android

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #124 on: August 27, 2021, 10:42:14 AM »
Of course no one is obliged to answer any of my questions but when you don’t it does make for a rather one-sided discussion as well as reminding me of the much used, at least by myself, quote attributed to Mark Twain “It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to talk and remove all doubt.”


Offline faithlilly

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #125 on: August 27, 2021, 12:17:08 PM »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #126 on: August 27, 2021, 03:03:43 PM »
Can we stop  the squabbling, please.

Offline rulesapply

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
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Offline rulesapply

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #128 on: August 28, 2021, 06:40:21 PM »
What do you think ‘yer’ means in the context of my post?

I wasn't referring to, yer, I knew what you meant. I was referring to, yet.

Offline rulesapply

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #129 on: August 28, 2021, 11:47:51 PM »
Can I suggest that you pop me on ignore then,

I'm going to ask you AGAIN. Genuine question. What do you know about the forensics being botched and how do you know? Do you have proof or a cite of the "several " members of the jury who didn't think LM was guilty? That was part of one of your previous posts. I meant  to ask you previously. It's your proof of numbers I'm interested in. If you don't have a cite, that's how misinformation can be started. All questions, given your posts, you should be able to answer.

Offline rulesapply

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #130 on: August 28, 2021, 11:59:29 PM »
Can I suggest that you pop me on ignore then,

Maybe it's not in the public domain. Good night.

Offline Mr Apples

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #131 on: September 22, 2021, 08:34:36 PM »
Could it be that the reason LM never went up to Jodi’s body was due to utter shock and terror, rather than him being paranoid and ‘DNA aware’ after murdering her himself? He turned and ran away immediately after he knew it was her, did he not? Indicative of his horror and shock? What was the closest LM ever got to the body that evening/morning before being taken away to the car park and then DKH station? I think, just before finding the body, he supposedly stopped a few yards from a big tree, said he saw something, said he could not identify what it was, moved a little closer and thought it was a mannequin, before finally realising it was Jodi (whereupon he immediately turned and ran away — if SL is to be believed). But, of course, we’ll never know the exact sequence of events, will we? We can only speculate and infer from the info we have, which, let’s face it, won’t be 100% accurate and reliable. Anyway, reverting back to the discovery of the body ... LM was branded a liar because he said he could see a body and its injuries from about 12 ft away and yet SK was parallel to LM (maybe a few steps further forward) and wasn’t treated with the same skepticism and aggression as LM. I suppose it is incriminating, the fact that LM could describe all of Jodi’s clothing — clothing that was scattered some feet away from her body, in the dark, from more than 12 ft away, even with a torch. Maybe Jodi hadn’t changed from school? Maybe Luke had went closer than 12 feet at some point before he was segregated from the others?  It is said Luke is highly intelligent, but him describing Jodi’s clothing when he could’ve simply said he didn’t know what she was wearing, seems a bit stupid. Maybe it was a tactic he thought would have worked in his favour, as if it would somehow reinforce the notion that he had nothing to hide? Or maybe, as some have suggested, his psychopathy was such that he was quietly gloating amongst the chaos and trauma and was enjoying playing games with the police. Some people wonder why Luke was treated as the prime suspect almost immediately, but they tend to forget that the police had misinterpreted Luke and the search trio’s calls to the point where, by the time they got to the locus, they were under the impression that Luke had left with jodi earlier in the evening, then said he hadn’t seen her and then found her dead; that LM was out searching for Jodi himself and had found her himself; and then, to compound his problems, he was calm & unemotional during his calls to emergency services, saying he’d found ‘something’ and not found  ‘a body’ (what was he thinking?). It seems LM didn’t get off to an auspicious start with the police as a result of these initial misunderstandings. And then there’s his seemingly calm demeanour during all this horror, giving out the impression he didn’t care and was emotionally unaffected by it all. Allegedly just sitting there, nonchalantly texting away on his phone (which was duly noted, btw). Would be interesting, and disturbing, if there was police bodycam footage of the scene of the locus that evening; really is a great pity that the technology wasn’t as it is now. Anyway, I guess the speculation in relation to this case will literally  go on for aeons .....

Offline faithlilly

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #132 on: September 23, 2021, 11:35:48 AM »
Could it be that the reason LM never went up to Jodi’s body was due to utter shock and terror, rather than him being paranoid and ‘DNA aware’ after murdering her himself? He turned and ran away immediately after he knew it was her, did he not? Indicative of his horror and shock? What was the closest LM ever got to the body that evening/morning before being taken away to the car park and then DKH station? I think, just before finding the body, he supposedly stopped a few yards from a big tree, said he saw something, said he could not identify what it was, moved a little closer and thought it was a mannequin, before finally realising it was Jodi (whereupon he immediately turned and ran away — if SL is to be believed). But, of course, we’ll never know the exact sequence of events, will we? We can only speculate and infer from the info we have, which, let’s face it, won’t be 100% accurate and reliable. Anyway, reverting back to the discovery of the body ... LM was branded a liar because he said he could see a body and its injuries from about 12 ft away and yet SK was parallel to LM (maybe a few steps further forward) and wasn’t treated with the same skepticism and aggression as LM. I suppose it is incriminating, the fact that LM could describe all of Jodi’s clothing — clothing that was scattered some feet away from her body, in the dark, from more than 12 ft away, even with a torch. Maybe Jodi hadn’t changed from school? Maybe Luke had went closer than 12 feet at some point before he was segregated from the others?  It is said Luke is highly intelligent, but him describing Jodi’s clothing when he could’ve simply said he didn’t know what she was wearing, seems a bit stupid. Maybe it was a tactic he thought would have worked in his favour, as if it would somehow reinforce the notion that he had nothing to hide? Or maybe, as some have suggested, his psychopathy was such that he was quietly gloating amongst the chaos and trauma and was enjoying playing games with the police. Some people wonder why Luke was treated as the prime suspect almost immediately, but they tend to forget that the police had misinterpreted Luke and the search trio’s calls to the point where, by the time they got to the locus, they were under the impression that Luke had left with jodi earlier in the evening, then said he hadn’t seen her and then found her dead; that LM was out searching for Jodi himself and had found her himself; and then, to compound his problems, he was calm & unemotional during his calls to emergency services, saying he’d found ‘something’ and not found  ‘a body’ (what was he thinking?). It seems LM didn’t get off to an auspicious start with the police as a result of these initial misunderstandings. And then there’s his seemingly calm demeanour during all this horror, giving out the impression he didn’t care and was emotionally unaffected by it all. Allegedly just sitting there, nonchalantly texting away on his phone (which was duly noted, btw). Would be interesting, and disturbing, if there was police bodycam footage of the scene of the locus that evening; really is a great pity that the technology wasn’t as it is now. Anyway, I guess the speculation in relation to this case will literally  go on for aeons .....

Luke knowing what Jodi was wearing is another aspect of this case that interests me. In what context did Luke give this information?  In what interview did he give this information? What information had he been given before and during the interview ? Had he seen any of the family before the interview? What information may they have given him? Until we have the context of precisely how the information was given, information that may not have been available to the jury, then we can’t know how incriminating that that information really was.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Paranoid Android

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #133 on: September 23, 2021, 02:24:02 PM »
Apart from anything else, it just seems weird that, of all the people who could have discovered Jodi, it happened to be the self same person who was meant to meet her, but supposedly didn't.

Offline John

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #134 on: September 23, 2021, 03:08:40 PM »
Apart from anything else, it just seems weird that, of all the people who could have discovered Jodi, it happened to be the self same person who was meant to meet her, but supposedly didn't.

I found it very strange that she lay there for over five hours yet nobody came across her in all that time despite numerous individuals being in that area, some even had dogs with them?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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