Author Topic: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?  (Read 67048 times)

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Offline rulesapply

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #150 on: September 24, 2021, 10:13:22 PM »
Now that is an interesting question though quite easily answered.

An unknown assailant, covered in blood, could have taken multiple routes to safety, chosen, I would have thought, because they gave him/her some semblance of cover.

Luke could also have taken several routes which hid him from the public’s gaze but he would still have to have broken cover to get to his house which, I believe, was in the middle of the estate. This was, arguably, the most dangerous part of his getaway too, with the all to real chance that one of the many residents whose houses he would have to have passed would spot him.

Further an unknown assailant could have been teaming with Jodi’s DNA. How thorough his/her clean up was would never be an issue. Luke’s person and surroundings were analysed to the nth degree with nothing found to link him to the murder found.
You have no idea if the killer was covered in blood. Mr. Scrimger said ,not neccessarily.

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Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #151 on: September 24, 2021, 10:25:55 PM »
But according to the family she was ‘ hanging around in Easthouses’. None of the family saw her heading towards RDP.
But none of the family saw Jodi in Easrhouses or Newbattle so what's  your point please?

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Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #152 on: September 24, 2021, 10:37:18 PM »
But none of the family saw Jodi in Easrhouses or Newbattle so what's  your point please?

But this Unknown Assailant Teaming with DNA is unknown.

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Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #153 on: September 24, 2021, 10:45:19 PM »
Two things . Firstly it was Alice Walker who suggested going back down the path that Luke had just walked. Luke had no way of knowing that they would be going back down that particular path.

Secondly Luke was a product of the metric generation. Like my nephew, who is ages with Luke, they deal in mm,cm and metres, grms and kg….not inches, feet and yards. Would he really have described the distance he had travelled past the break in yards or was it put to him and he was simply unaware of how far the distance was?
Doesn't make a bit of difference who suggested going down any path. Smokescreen,  smokescreen,  smokescreen! What matters are LM's lies. He murdered Jodi and you have had nearly two decades to prove otherwise,  unsuccessfully. Why is that?? LM is guilty. SL wasn't even in court despite the avoidance of answering questions asking her. Manipulative rubbish for the sponges.

Offline Mr Apples

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #154 on: September 25, 2021, 10:18:37 AM »
Who was the witness that knew LM that William Wallace is referring to? Can someone clarify? And at what time did they see LM on the Newbattle Road that evening?

Offline Mr Apples

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #155 on: September 25, 2021, 10:43:18 AM »
Another quick question .... was the spot where Jodi’s body was found thick with grass and vegetation? Was that the reason it lay for some 6 hours undiscovered? Yes, it was off the beaten path, but it was still quite a popular spot for local dog walkers ([Name removed] snr was there that evening with his dogs and never noticed her body) and local youths. I’ve yet to see a pic of the exact spot where her body was found.

Offline Paranoid Android

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #156 on: September 25, 2021, 10:59:05 AM »
Another quick question .... was the spot where Jodi’s body was found thick with grass and vegetation? Was that the reason it lay for some 6 hours undiscovered? Yes, it was off the beaten path, but it was still quite a popular spot for local dog walkers ([Name removed] snr was there that evening with his dogs and never noticed her body) and local youths. I’ve yet to see a pic of the exact spot where her body was found.

The spot where Jodi was found was/is woodland - there is a rough mud path, but not brilliant for walking, imo.

I'm not sure that the side of the wall where Jodi was was found was that popular for walkers, etc.

You certainly get people walking on RDP itself - on the other side of the wall - if you were walking by, you'd maybe spot the V in the wall, but you wouldn't necessarily feel an urge to peer over/through it - even if you did, I'm not sure you'd be able to see Jodi's body - you'd maybe have to climb the wall - bear in mind that the medical examiner sent out on the night couldn't get over the wall.

Offline faithlilly

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #157 on: September 25, 2021, 11:39:03 AM »
The spot where Jodi was found was/is woodland - there is a rough mud path, but not brilliant for walking, imo.

I'm not sure that the side of the wall where Jodi was was found was that popular for walkers, etc.

You certainly get people walking on RDP itself - on the other side of the wall - if you were walking by, you'd maybe spot the V in the wall, but you wouldn't necessarily feel an urge to peer over/through it - even if you did, I'm not sure you'd be able to see Jodi's body - you'd maybe have to climb the wall - bear in mind that the medical examiner sent out on the night couldn't get over the wall.

Rough terrain would be no deterrent for dogs though I would have thought and you often hear of dogs leading their owners to a body.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #158 on: September 25, 2021, 11:43:20 AM »
Who was the witness that knew LM that William Wallace is referring to? Can someone clarify? And at what time did they see LM on the Newbattle Road that evening?

They were boys from Luke’s school who were cycling to a nearby college and saw him around 5.50pm while going to the college and coming back sometime later. They said that he hadn’t moved from the position where they first saw him when seen on the way back, the position where Luke said he’d been standing.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Apples

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #159 on: September 25, 2021, 11:54:01 AM »
They were boys from Luke’s school who were cycling to a nearby college and saw him around 5.50pm while going to the college and coming back sometime later. They said that he hadn’t moved from the position where they first saw him when seen on the way back, the position where Luke said he’d been standing.

William Wallace said it was a female who knew him. I know the 3 guys knew him and identified him. This is a completely separate matter. If it wasn’t Marion O’Sullivan, who was it?

Offline Mr Apples

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #160 on: September 25, 2021, 11:57:30 AM »
The spot where Jodi was found was/is woodland - there is a rough mud path, but not brilliant for walking, imo.

I'm not sure that the side of the wall where Jodi was was found was that popular for walkers, etc.

You certainly get people walking on RDP itself - on the other side of the wall - if you were walking by, you'd maybe spot the V in the wall, but you wouldn't necessarily feel an urge to peer over/through it - even if you did, I'm not sure you'd be able to see Jodi's body - you'd maybe have to climb the wall - bear in mind that the medical examiner sent out on the night couldn't get over the wall.

I know it was a strip of woodland where she was found. I’m talking about the exact spot where her body lay when Luke found her. Was it in thick grass or thick vegetation?

Offline Paranoid Android

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #161 on: September 25, 2021, 12:03:55 PM »
Dugs oot for a walk tend to be accompanied by humans - rough terrain could be a deterrent for humans. 

Offline Paranoid Android

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #162 on: September 25, 2021, 12:06:15 PM »
The recent suggestion that LM's bike was seen at Newbattle High School still hasn't been confirmed or ruled out - what's the deal with that?

Quite an important detail, I would have thought.

Offline Rusty

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #163 on: September 25, 2021, 02:28:08 PM »

I know it was a strip of woodland where she was found. I’m talking about the exact spot where her body lay when Luke found her. Was it in thick grass or thick vegetation?

This might help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKL-pJvePsg&t=39s

This chap has done a series of videos in & around the locus. Although these videos are taken around March time, where the vegetation won't be fully grown yet, I suspect it won't have been a huge difference to what it may have looked in June/July. The chap is also very much in the Mitchell camp, so best with volume down.

Offline faithlilly

Re: What's Significant About LM Finding J J?
« Reply #164 on: September 25, 2021, 03:48:18 PM »
Dugs oot for a walk tend to be accompanied by humans - rough terrain could be a deterrent for humans.

Not for dogs off of a lead.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?