More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case

[Vertigo Swirl]

I clearly stated I made no inference. Do you, however, think it "blackens her name" that she enjoyed the company of Clement Freud - just one of many alleged paedophile connections to this case, in my opinion.

Just re-read what you wrote and tell us straight-faced that this was not a clear attempt to link Kate McCann to a paedophile, implying that she enjoyed spending time in the company of said paedophile (failing to point out that at the time she did not know he was a paedophile):

"And with regards to suspected paedophiles residing in the area what, pray tell, do you make of the "mother" and her self proclaimed fondness for socialising with Clement Freud?"

[Eleanor]

Just re-read what you wrote and tell us straight-faced that this was not a clear attempt to link Kate McCann to a paedophile, implying that she enjoyed spending time in the company of said paedophile (failing to point out that at the time she did not know he was a paedophile):

"And with regards to suspected paedophiles residing in the area what, pray tell, do you make of the "mother" and her self proclaimed fondness for socialising with Clement Freud?"

BillyWhizz is just being silly.  No real need to get upset about this rubbish.

Clement Freud wasn't a paedophile and his wife knew nothing about any such thing.

[Vertigo Swirl]

BillyWhizz is just being silly.  No real need to get upset about this rubbish.

Clement Freud wasn't a paedophile and his wife knew nothing about any such thing.

I think it's likely Freud was but I doubt even Billy Whizz Kid had any inkling that he was prior to the allegations being made.  To criticise someone or cast their integrity in doubt because they were friendly with someone who later turns out to have been depraved in their private life is a bit of a low blow but oh so typical of the average McCann basher IMO.  Any opportunity to get out the big pointy stick of blame and shame.

[Lace]

It would help if there was cohesion in other accounts. Matthew Oldfield, for example, changed his account significantly over time. It moves from the whole group entering 5A to him not entering the bedroom to him not entering the apartment.

Matthew Oldfield
4th May
Then, the whole group went to Madeleine's bedroom and checked that the twins were sleeping OK. That there was no sign of a burglary in the apartment. Only one window in the childrens' bedroom was open. The window was open and the respective shutter
10th May
In view of such news all group members rushed to GM's apartment which was accessed through the rear entrance, namely by the sliding glass door facing the pool.
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Asked, he relates that when he entered the apartment, from memory, he did not approach MBM's bedroom therefore cannot provide any details about its condition.
Rogatory interview
 If you ask whether we went, you know, into the apartment and I'm almost a hundred percent sure we didn't go to the apartment...

The first paragraph on May 4th,  maybe should read they went to Madeleine's bedroom window [outside] ?

The second paragraph in my opinion,  relates to when he went to check on the McCann children he didn't enter the bedroom.

The last paragraph in my opinion should read that they didn't go into the apartment.

If you want to read things into those sentences you can,  but it is in my opinion quite easy to see it was not translated properly.

[Lace]

If the here and now is centred on a paedophile surely it makes sense to examine the links from Day One to many other paedophiles. Maybe there are links to anyone of the thirty plus known paedophiles living in the area and CB.

Well maybe Amaral did,  though he said an officer knocked on CB's door and didn't get an answer so maybe they didn't get an answer from the others either.

CB happens to be a Paedophile and also a burglar.   His phone pinged in the area of the Ocean Club,  he confessed to taking Madeleine to a friend,  why do that?   He told his girlfriend the day before Madeleine disappeared that he had a terrible job to do the next day,  but it will be the making of him [or similar words]  he then went to live in another part of Portugal after the 3rd of May then went back to Germany.   Dodgy or what?

[Lace]

Paedophiles don't all abuse children and not all child abusers are paedophiles. Brueckner's record suggests he was abusive to females of all ages, not just to children.

I think his wanting to take something small and abuse it for days,  tells you CB is a Paedophile.

[Brietta]

Madeleine McCann Search Granted Massive Financial Boost In Bid To Solve Investigation
BY : EMILY BROWN ON : 20 JUL 2021
The Home Office has granted the Metropolitan police a huge financial boost in an effort to solve the mystery of what happened when Madeleine McCann disappeared from her family’s apartment in May 2007.

In a statement cited by The Sun Online, a spokesperson for the Home Office said:

The Government has provided up to £350,000 for Operation Grange in 2021-22.

In line with our Special Grant processes, funding for Operation Grange is approved on an annual basis. Ministers have approved a request for £349,328 of funding for this financial year.
https://www.unilad.co.uk/news/madeleine-mccann-search-granted-massive-financial-boost-in-bid-to-solve-investigation/

[jassi]

I think his wanting to take something small and abuse it for days,  tells you CB is a Paedophile.

If you believe the Tabloids.

[Wonderfulspam]

Well maybe Amaral did,  though he said an officer knocked on CB's door and didn't get an answer so maybe they didn't get an answer from the others either.

CB happens to be a Paedophile and also a burglar.   His phone pinged in the area of the Ocean Club,  he confessed to taking Madeleine to a friend,  why do that?   He told his girlfriend the day before Madeleine disappeared that he had a terrible job to do the next day,  but it will be the making of him [or similar words]  he then went to live in another part of Portugal after the 3rd of May then went back to Germany.   Dodgy or what?

People fantasise about all sorts of weird things.

Every day I see people here imagining Maddie was abducted, for example.

[Vertigo Swirl]

People fantasise about all sorts of weird things.

Every day I see people here imagining Maddie was abducted, for example.

What do you fantasise about Spam?  On second thoughts I’d rather not know, it’s bound to be extremely disturbing.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Clement Freud wasn't a paedophile and his wife knew nothing about any such thing.

From alleged victim accounts Clement Freud's allegedly first abused children from the late 1940s.You don't have spells of your life when you are a paedophile and times when you're not! The accusations were not widely known in 2007 and they only became public about 8 or 9 years later. I have no idea what the McCann's knew about his alleged illegal and harmful sexual preferences and nor do you. However, like I said I make no inference from what Kate wrote in her book about socialising with this man.

I realise you are partisan when it comes to associates of the McCann's, but do you seriously believe what you wrote there? Your staunch insistence of his innocence strikes me as quite bizarre given the evidence against him. In my opinion it would be akin to declaring Jimmy Saville innocent of any sexual abuse crimes. Despite your assertion it has been widely reported that Freud's wife "apologised profusely to two alleged sexual abuse victims of her husband" (Dowell, 2016 et al) . It has also been reported that Police investigated links between Clement Freud and the Madeleine McCann case.

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/widow-profoundly-sorry-over-clement-freud-child-sex-abuse-allegations-as-links-to-madeleine-mccann-disappearance-investigated-34802990.html

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/entertainment/sir-clement-freuds-widow-issues-heartfelt-apology-after-her-late-husband-is-named-as-sexual-abuser-of-an-underage-girl/

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/crime/clement-freuds-widow-apologies-victims-catalogue-abuse-exposed-1796890

https://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/a797824/clement-freuds-widow-issues-public-apology-over-sex-abuse-allegations/ 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1284246/paedophile-sir-clement-freud-had-a-villa-close-to-where-madeleine-mccann-went-missing-as-police-are-urged-to-probe-link/


I do not know what the McCann's knew about him and nor do you

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

I think it's likely Freud was but I doubt even Billy Whizz Kid had any inkling that he was prior to the allegations being made.  To criticise someone or cast their integrity in doubt because they were friendly with someone who later turns out to have been depraved in their private life is a bit of a low blow but oh so typical of the average McCann basher IMO.  Any opportunity to get out the big pointy stick of blame and shame.

I said I made no inference from the friendship between the McCann's and Freud. As I said it's another example in a long list of where paedophiles have been linked to this case from Day One and culminating in the current investigation of CB.

[Billy Whizz Fan Club]

Well maybe Amaral did,  though he said an officer knocked on CB's door and didn't get an answer so maybe they didn't get an answer from the others either.

CB happens to be a Paedophile and also a burglar.   His phone pinged in the area of the Ocean Club,  he confessed to taking Madeleine to a friend,  why do that?   He told his girlfriend the day before Madeleine disappeared that he had a terrible job to do the next day,  but it will be the making of him [or similar words]  he then went to live in another part of Portugal after the 3rd of May then went back to Germany.   Dodgy or what?

Was it more or less dodgy than the actions RH in your opinion?

[Brietta]

I said I made no inference from the friendship between the McCann's and Freud. As I said it's another example in a long list of where paedophiles have been linked to this case from Day One and culminating in the current investigation of CB.

It is transparently obvious why you linked the issue of the unproved allegations made against Clement Freud and Kate McCann.

The determination to turn this forum into a cesspit is a never ending task for some 😁

[Brietta]

Was it more or less dodgy than the actions RH in your opinion?

Who is RH?