Author Topic: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case  (Read 76734 times)

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #255 on: July 21, 2021, 07:17:48 AM »
People tend to hypothesise on things, don't they? John McGee may have given statements, but they never reached the Portuguese police. Bridget O'Donnell is critial of the PJ, but she obviously didn't know that Amaral asked the British police to interview her husband. (and provided the questions to be asked)
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS.htm
Was that before or after this happened?

“It was only when we arrived back in Dublin five days later that we felt compelled to volunteer statements to the gardai, who then passed them on to Interpol, by then already on the case.
Presumably, Interpol then passed them on to the Portuguese police”.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #256 on: July 21, 2021, 07:51:21 AM »
Was that before or after this happened?

“It was only when we arrived back in Dublin five days later that we felt compelled to volunteer statements to the gardai, who then passed them on to Interpol, by then already on the case.
Presumably, Interpol then passed them on to the Portuguese police”.

Was what before or after Mr McGee contacted the Gardai?
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #257 on: July 21, 2021, 08:01:07 AM »
Was what before or after Mr McGee contacted the Gardai?
Sorry, mixing up two different statements.  Note to self: wake up properly before starting to post.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #258 on: July 21, 2021, 08:31:36 AM »
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Sorry, mixing up two different statements.  Note to self: wake up properly before starting to post.

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #259 on: July 21, 2021, 08:39:04 AM »
Well I appear to have made G-Unit’s morning, always nice to know I’ve spread a little happiness before breakfast.  @)(++(*
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Offline Lace

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #260 on: July 21, 2021, 08:55:23 AM »
With regards to the reconstruction you appear to be re-writing history, in my opinion.... At the time it appeared to me that the Tapas group were resistant to a reconstruction. It was reported that they set certain conditions before they would return to test their timeline through a reconstruction. Some argued that those conditions were unreasonable.

And with regards to suspected paedophiles residing in the area what, pray tell, do you make of the "mother" and her self proclaimed fondness for socialising with Clement Freud?

Jeremy Wilkins refused to return for a reconstruction too didn't he?    The McCann's agreed to return. 

As for Clement Freud,  tell me did he have 'Paedophile' written on his forehead?

Offline Eleanor

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #261 on: July 21, 2021, 09:10:31 AM »
Jeremy Wilkins refused to return for a reconstruction too didn't he?    The McCann's agreed to return. 

As for Clement Freud,  tell me did he have 'Paedophile' written on his forehead?

Clement Freud only invited The McCanns for Lunch.

Yes, Jeremy Wilkins refused to return for a reconstruction.  A key figure as it happens.

The McCanns had no choice.

The rest of The Tapas 7 refused because they were afraid of being arrested.  "Don't bring your children" they were told.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #262 on: July 21, 2021, 09:23:35 AM »
Jeremy Wilkins refused to return for a reconstruction too didn't he?    The McCann's agreed to return. 

As for Clement Freud,  tell me did he have 'Paedophile' written on his forehead?
Knowing Billy’s logic I’m surprised he hasn’t questioned the family’s support of Everton, seeing as how one of their team members is under investigation for Child sex abuse crimes.
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Offline Brietta

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #263 on: July 21, 2021, 09:51:01 AM »
People tend to hypothesise on things, don't they? John McGee may have given statements, but they never reached the Portuguese police. Bridget O'Donnell is critial of the PJ, but she obviously didn't know that Amaral asked the British police to interview her husband. (and provided the questions to be asked)
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JEREMY-WILKINS.htm

A recurring theme of the investigation into a missing child are the invisible 'anonymous' witnesses who leave no trace behind them but in Amaral's feverish imagination in the pages of his book or the chat show studios.

A second recurring theme which features in the investigation is the litany of actual witnesses who might have had information which could have been collated with the experience of others.
It is called 'collecting evidence.
One example of whom is Brueckner.  For some reason he came to the attention of the Judicial Police and was visited, but he wasn't in according to Amaral who also claimed he was eliminated from the inquiry at that stage.

Amaral asked the British police to interview her husband. (and provided the questions to be asked)
Do you remember what 'rogatory' means.
Quite obviously the British police carried out their duty and interviewed a key witness whom the Portuguese didn't bother to follow through on at the time.
They had no problem bringing the Smiths over who seem to have been asked about Robert Murat.

Jeremy contacted the police because of his suspicions regarding the 'rasta man' he had encountered.  The police weren't interested in that - not one question - but they were interested in the start of the investigation into the McCanns following Gerry's interview to the extent of requesting ~
2. In the spirit of Police to Police Cooperation we request the presence of a British Criminal Analyst who may be able to assist the enquiry.
Also the collaboration of the UK's "Child Exploitation Online Protection" may be useful if they wish to send one of their officers to provide assistance to the investigation,

But they did not follow through with Jeremy on his original statement and according to him - never spoke to him again until Rebelo took over the investigation.


Interesting that fourteen years later, Amaral chose to publicise an image of Brueckner (who had a collection of wigs) with rasta locks photoshopped in.  Did it hit a chord with him for some reason
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #264 on: July 21, 2021, 09:53:24 AM »
Well I appear to have made G-Unit’s morning, always nice to know I’ve spread a little happiness before breakfast.  @)(++(*

You have your uses VS.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #265 on: July 21, 2021, 10:03:38 AM »
You have your uses VS.
Damned with faint praise...  8(8-))
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Offline Eleanor

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #266 on: July 21, 2021, 10:09:16 AM »
Damned with faint praise...  8(8-))

Warnings Notwithstanding.

Offline G-Unit

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #267 on: July 21, 2021, 10:45:46 AM »

snip/

Amaral asked the British police to interview her husband. (and provided the questions to be asked)
Do you remember what 'rogatory' means.
Quite obviously the British police carried out their duty and interviewed a key witness whom the Portuguese didn't bother to follow through on at the time.
They had no problem bringing the Smiths over who seem to have been asked about Robert Murat.

Jeremy contacted the police because of his suspicions regarding the 'rasta man' he had encountered.  The police weren't interested in that - not one question - but they were interested in the start of the investigation into the McCanns following Gerry's interview to the extent of requesting ~
2. In the spirit of Police to Police Cooperation we request the presence of a British Criminal Analyst who may be able to assist the enquiry.
Also the collaboration of the UK's "Child Exploitation Online Protection" may be useful if they wish to send one of their officers to provide assistance to the investigation,

But they did not follow through with Jeremy on his original statement and according to him - never spoke to him again until Rebelo took over the investigation.


Jes Wilkins spoke to the police on Friday 4th and told them about his 'rasta man' entering the Tapas restaurant when Jes was in there between 8.30 and 9pm. (or in the bar, or in the toilets, His accounts changed over time)

The police looked into this and identified the man.

After the McCanns and their friends were interviewed it became clear that Jes was present when Jane Tanner saw her man. This prompted the request by Amaral on 7th for him to be interviewed to find out if he saw anything. According to "madeleine" Gerry also asked the PJ to speak to Jes in case he saw Jane's man. (although Gerry had already sent Matt Oldfield to Jes's apartment at 1am on 4th to ask him that question)

In all, Jes was interviewed at the request of the PJ on 7th May. He and Bridget were interviewed on 2nd October but it's not clear who decided to do that. He was then included in the Rogatory requests, with some of the questions being supplied by the McCanns.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #268 on: July 21, 2021, 11:01:51 AM »
Jes Wilkins spoke to the police on Friday 4th and told them about his 'rasta man' entering the Tapas restaurant when Jes was in there between 8.30 and 9pm. (or in the bar, or in the toilets, His accounts changed over time)

The police looked into this and identified the man.

After the McCanns and their friends were interviewed it became clear that Jes was present when Jane Tanner saw her man. This prompted the request by Amaral on 7th for him to be interviewed to find out if he saw anything. According to "madeleine" Gerry also asked the PJ to speak to Jes in case he saw Jane's man. (although Gerry had already sent Matt Oldfield to Jes's apartment at 1am on 4th to ask him that question)

In all, Jes was interviewed at the request of the PJ on 7th May. He and Bridget were interviewed on 2nd October but it's not clear who decided to do that. He was then included in the Rogatory requests, with some of the questions being supplied by the McCanns.

Meanwhile the known paedophile who is now the prime suspect was ignored

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: More recent events related to Madeleine McCann's case
« Reply #269 on: July 21, 2021, 11:35:17 AM »
Jes Wilkins spoke to the police on Friday 4th and told them about his 'rasta man' entering the Tapas restaurant when Jes was in there between 8.30 and 9pm. (or in the bar, or in the toilets, His accounts changed over time)

The police looked into this and identified the man.

After the McCanns and their friends were interviewed it became clear that Jes was present when Jane Tanner saw her man. This prompted the request by Amaral on 7th for him to be interviewed to find out if he saw anything. According to "madeleine" Gerry also asked the PJ to speak to Jes in case he saw Jane's man. (although Gerry had already sent Matt Oldfield to Jes's apartment at 1am on 4th to ask him that question)

In all, Jes was interviewed at the request of the PJ on 7th May. He and Bridget were interviewed on 2nd October but it's not clear who decided to do that. He was then included in the Rogatory requests, with some of the questions being supplied by the McCanns.
Considering Bruckner was considered worth taking the time to be paid a visit by the PJ  and considering Amaral claimed he had dreadlocks at the time you'd wonder why the PJ didn't try a little harder to track him down wouldn't you?  Well I would anyway...
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