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Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #585 on: March 07, 2022, 08:15:21 PM »
But reality was to hit home, not was at all how it should be, there was no stepping up to the mark from either CM or SL on behalf of Luke, was there? Not where these others were concerned, they could not understand why the gates of hell themselves were not being chained to? Disputes going on that had been going on for years between three people (LM, his mother and SL).

Toxic mix
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #586 on: March 07, 2022, 08:57:55 PM »

As, there was very little hope of success with SCCRC, one tells us this and the next step forward ultimately to get the word out there, to sway public opinion and gain attention another way, by means of putting it all out there in that book. Flatlined, dead in the water, without LM and his mother? MOJO was to be the next hope, but they state clearly that their offices were merely to "provide storage for those case files" Which actually makes sense, these files in reality, should have always been in a secure place should they not have? Not simply stored in one's house in the middle of a scheme? A bedroom/make shift study? SL tells of that visitor to her door, to then getting security cameras to her house, so nothing there to protect any files before this then? No security. Which as anyone knows, hold very sensitive material? Perhaps they were under lock and key, perhaps not.

Did she actually get ‘security cameras to her house’ or was this yet more smoke and mirrors?

And did she plan on inside and outside ‘security cameras’ given the Billy Middleton fiasco ?

Surely she considered both
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #587 on: March 07, 2022, 09:01:23 PM »

Disputes going on that had been going on for years between three people (LM, his mother and SL).

And Shane Mitchell and the father?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #588 on: March 07, 2022, 09:09:04 PM »
And without doubt, this case will rear it's head time and again, more broadcasts one way or another via media source of all kinds.

You think?

I don’t!
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #589 on: March 07, 2022, 09:43:43 PM »
IB is one big IF, it is not based upon evidence and facts that matter, it is opinion and most definitely in parts by permission of LM.

It’s Sandra Lean’s interpretation and spin and not based on the actual facts heard throughout the murder trial

Sandra Lean didn’t realise until recently AO had given evidence - what does that tell you?

Re: AO ➡️ http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12082.msg658244#msg658244
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #590 on: March 07, 2022, 11:03:22 PM »
Suspect it will be a while before Lianna Mackie realises she’s been duped

’Or those vying for attention by lying? - Leans right handers? Direct puppets such as L.Mackie?’
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12082.msg658226#msg658226

Lianna Mackie
‘KG we aren’t collapsing, never will. Just waiting to hear back from Luke, and go forward accordingly. I’ve been on this for 18 years, the world will collapse before I will x


Lianna Mackie
KG Sandra has only pulled out professionally for now, she is still very much a supporter, however. There is no confirmation that statement is Luke’s own words. But please know, the second we can confirm more we absolutely will. We don’t want to add to the rife speculation which helps no one, and the drama certainly doesn’t either. So until we have absolute facts to update you all with we are not commenting on anything.



Anyone know what her twitter account was suspended for? ⬇️

https://mobile.twitter.com/liannamackie?lang=en

Was her twitter suspension killer Luke Mitchell related?

And who’s ‘drama’ is she referring to - Sandra Leans?

Is this Lianna Mackie related to this sick psychopathic Mackie ? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-34458970
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #591 on: March 07, 2022, 11:14:37 PM »
Suspect it will be a while before Lianna Mackie realises she’s been duped

’Or those vying for attention by lying? - Leans right handers? Direct puppets such as L.Mackie?’
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=12082.msg658226#msg658226

Is this Lianna Mackie related to this sick psychopathic Mackie ? https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-34458970

Whoever Lianna Mackie is she appears completely deluded

She states,

Lianna Mackie
Could we please ask all new comers to sign the petition for an independent inquiry? Whether you think Luke is guilty or innocent, an independent review will finally give answers to all the doubts and is beneficial for both sides of the argument.


Why would someone who thinks sadistic psycho killer Luke Mitchell to be guilty want time and money wasted on a ‘review’ of any description based on a book written by liar Sandra Lean?

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Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #592 on: March 08, 2022, 12:35:51 AM »

Let us be realistic here, those pop ins from SL over the time there (MOJO), served dual purpose once more, did it not? Still putting together content for that book. Where we are told that it came about by another stranger posing that question to her, getting  it all down in writing and hey presto, within months that book is written! The first draft she tells us was not satisfactory (Did LM not approve of the first?), to then have it ready for press and released by '18'

Does she say this in her book?
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Offline Parky41

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #593 on: March 08, 2022, 12:26:43 PM »
Really pushed for time, in short, yes it is a summary to a degree of what is in the book around the fall out and so forth. I will answer fully later when I have more time. I have a post (continuation), around AO's and of SL's response to this which I will also put up. To note also quickly, that no, it does not say LM had read the book first prior to print, this is my question and opinion only.  As is of course other areas which are opinion, the new colleague, stranger to her at work whom she was wary with when he asked her "Are you the Sandra Lean----" to then getting into a discussion around writing the book. As with everything context is important and one doesn't get much from the odd quote, allowed under "Fair use" for discussion purpose?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #594 on: March 08, 2022, 01:57:55 PM »
Really pushed for time, in short, yes it is a summary to a degree of what is in the book around the fall out and so forth. I will answer fully later when I have more time. I have a post (continuation), around AO's and of SL's response to this which I will also put up. To note also quickly, that no, it does not say LM had read the book first prior to print, this is my question and opinion only.  As is of course other areas which are opinion, the new colleague, stranger to her at work whom she was wary with when he asked her "Are you the Sandra Lean----" to then getting into a discussion around writing the book. As with everything context is important and one doesn't get much from the odd quote, allowed under "Fair use" for discussion purpose?

I don’t think LM would need to read a draft of her book. He knows he murdered [Name removed].

All he’s interested in is having someone like Sandra Lean promote yet further propaganda
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #595 on: March 08, 2022, 01:59:46 PM »
Really pushed for time, in short, yes it is a summary to a degree of what is in the book around the fall out and so forth. I will answer fully later when I have more time. I have a post (continuation), around AO's and of SL's response to this which I will also put up. To note also quickly, that no, it does not say LM had read the book first prior to print, this is my question and opinion only.  As is of course other areas which are opinion, the new colleague, stranger to her at work whom she was wary with when he asked her "Are you the Sandra Lean----" to then getting into a discussion around writing the book. As with everything context is important and one doesn't get much from the odd quote, allowed under "Fair use" for discussion purpose?

Sounds like fraudster Scott Forbes
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #596 on: March 08, 2022, 02:01:00 PM »
As with everything context is important and one doesn't get much from the odd quote, allowed under "Fair use" for discussion purpose?

Massive red flag and a tactic used by innocence fraud enablers like Sandra Lean
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #597 on: March 08, 2022, 03:55:57 PM »
Something to digest: In IB Nicholas, SL refers to the fall out during the time of the SCCRC report being in. It is put across as things becoming strained between CM, that they could not agree on which was the best way to proceed. That once the report came through communication had broken down in their relationship, so much so that CM (who loves a note?) put another note through SL's door stating she had been stripped of POA - then refers to the WAP, that it had to be taken down as one no longer had the case files to back up what was being put out!

Hmm these ‘notes’

I’m not so sure about these ‘notes’

What I am sure of is Sandra Lean seemingly makes a lot up as she goes


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Offline Nicholas

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #598 on: March 08, 2022, 06:32:12 PM »
Further opinion, by invite of "make of it what you will?"

Something to digest: In IB Nicholas, SL refers to the fall out during the time of the SCCRC report being in. It is put across as things becoming strained between CM, that they could not agree on which was the best way to proceed. That once the report came through communication had broken down in their relationship, so much so that CM (who loves a note?) put another note through SL's door stating she had been stripped of POA -then refers to the WAP, that it had to be taken down as one no longer had the case files to back up what was being put out!

Wasn’t this also around the time Corinne Mitchell put her house up for sale - around 3 years after the news she was apparently being sued for ‘£1/4m over deadly caravan’
https://www.scotsman.com/news/murderer-mitchells-mother-sued-ps-14m-over-deadly-caravan-1687143
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Offline Parky41

Re: Sandra's exit - The real reasons
« Reply #599 on: March 09, 2022, 12:27:22 PM »
Sounds like fraudster Scott Forbes

SF on the scene well before this, this new workmate claims to have been a friend who had doubts,  who was scared to voice them for fear of the locals? Full of contradiction once more. Plays the "was done with it" packing all her many years of study away. Entering that new life of an easy  9 - 5 work role. That one was in a place that discussion of the case, as a "rule of thumb" did not happen (In that office) . Only a "select few" knew of her and that connection to the case there. This is the reason one was wary, was the new start a friend or foe? Wary as then states her place of work was "filled with mainly locals?" (Big office?) Least that is the impression. - contrast to other areas of the book, of everyone knowing her, those embellished attacks and all else, so much so (as stated before), that one had to ask her daughters to lie at school, to say no if they were asked "is your mother------"

So, all was packed away, "done with it" all. To the discussion on the case with this new mate, and the book was brought up. This is 2016 and by 2017 it is in for it's first edit. Give over? One had obviously been working hard at that book until that point, had they not? Not left and "done with it", at all!

So these fall outs, getting that proverbial boot not once but twice. Tells us also that although one is not being critical of CM, that unlike herself, she did not have a grasp and understanding of "legal technicalities" Perhaps the truth is more closer to one getting too big for ones boots, taking that hold of POA a step too far? That paralegal elective and qualification, that allowance to be granted access to sensitive case material, was being overstepped in some way? Certainly and without doubt, there was a fall out online at the time of the WAP, was someone not impersonating CM?

But regardless, and ultimately, any stripping and removing access came as a direct request from LM himself. I made an error around MOJO, (perhaps), the book in for it's first edit by that point. But without doubt, permission must have been requested/granted, from LM for contents belonging to him, not in the public domain to be used. Was his mother playing the role of "piggy in the middle" here? These three people came together once more, to suit the others purpose, that purpose is done and they are separate once more, for the time being. And as stated, the side of his mother appears to be adhering to keeping quiet, whilst the other not? Book still to be promoted and sold, (again an error), obviously suiting purpose still for Mitchell to get the word out there, to have that much craved attention, (narcistic, as you rightly state)

Reflect briefly once more to 2003, that undivided attention, replaying that night over and over to his captive audience that was SL? Feeding his nature, given him the attention he craved and needed? Much like that interview on the day of this girls funeral? Those interviews and that "flat affect" voice, handing the police more and more information that only the killer could know. In much the same fashion as "Peter Manual" ---------

("---" IB, chapter, SCCRC. )