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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #390 on: October 01, 2021, 02:41:19 PM »
Brett Collins on the other hand doesn’t appear to have been the type of person who could be manipulated

I don’t believe Brett Collins narrative(s)

Roger Wilkes Blood Relations
Collins explained that he was a friend of Jeremy’s, who had spent three months with him in New Zealand when Brett had a catering business there. The business had since been sold, Brett Collins added, and he’d been on holiday for most of the summer, spending several weeks with Jeremy at Goldhanger. He’d been on a trip to Greece when he heard about the tragedy at White House Farm. He’d taken the first available flight to London.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #391 on: October 01, 2021, 03:00:13 PM »
I don’t believe Brett Collins narrative

Roger Wilkes Blood Relations
Collins explained that he was a friend of Jeremy’s, who had spent three months with him in New Zealand when Brett had a catering business there. The business had since been sold, Brett Collins added, and he’d been on holiday for most of the summer, spending several weeks with Jeremy at Goldhanger. He’d been on a trip to Greece when he heard about the tragedy at White House Farm. He’d taken the first available flight to London.

Wasn't he lucky to have had such an airtight alibi otherwise he too could have been suspected of involvement given his close relationship with the killer.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #392 on: October 01, 2021, 04:27:06 PM »
Wasn't he lucky to have had such an airtight alibi otherwise he too could have been suspected of involvement given his close relationship with the killer.

I’ve edited my post above as it was meant to read narrative(s) as opposed narrative

My next question is what did the police investigation uncover in relation to Brett Collins movements in the UK prior to the murders?

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Offline Nicholas

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« Reply #393 on: October 01, 2021, 04:29:02 PM »
There's one scene where Brett Collins is washing his car, and he say's 'This is the kind of thing Jeremy wanted', and a big smile washed over his face, then he said 'it's ironic'.  When Bamber sees that, his blood is going to boil!  It was worth it just for that.

A bit like a ‘duper’s delight’ smile would you say?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #394 on: October 01, 2021, 04:40:58 PM »
Wasn't he lucky to have had such an airtight alibi otherwise he too could have been suspected of involvement given his close relationship with the killer.

‘Could have’ ?

Don’t you mean he should have ?
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #395 on: October 01, 2021, 05:28:21 PM »
Brett Collins
They split us up and luckily I had my Kiwi passport stamped for Greece. If I hadn't had that, I would have been dragged into it. They could have made some sort of bulls... and said we were in cahoots’

I suspect they were in ‘cahoots’ in relation to, for eg, the selling of the nude photos of Sheila

But Brett Collins doesn’t appear to want to address this after all these years

Brett Collins states - in reference to the day of the funerals of Nevill, June and Sheila,

‘Suddenly it was a major day for Jeremy to put his parents and sister to rest ‘

He then appears to laugh and puts his hand over his mouth as it to cover the laugh (During 1st episode at around 28:40)

‘I was in Greece eh when I heard about the murders I flew back to England I just was there for support if he needed me

Was this part of the plan?

Where’s Brett Collins in the funeral photos ?
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Offline Nicholas

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« Reply #396 on: October 01, 2021, 06:02:03 PM »
Have you forgotten about Lorraine - who Mindhouse used to start off their first episode ?

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Offline Nicholas

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« Reply #397 on: October 01, 2021, 06:36:22 PM »
Why did David James Smith say he was the first journalist to ‘officially’ interview Bamber?

How did he forget about Roger Wilkes who first met with Bamber ‘in the late summer of 1991’
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Offline Myster

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« Reply #398 on: October 02, 2021, 05:59:03 AM »
Have you forgotten about Lorraine - who Mindhouse used to start off their first episode ?
She mentioned starting work at Osea in 2016.  Has she still got a job there or have they got wise?
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Myster

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« Reply #399 on: October 02, 2021, 06:30:19 AM »
Did you notice Michael Fielder leading away Brett Collins after he'd been released without charge, to sell his story to the SUN for a four-figure sum?  Brett Collins must have been the instigator of their scoop about Bamber and himself hawking around nude photos of Sheila Caffell, even though he vehemently denied it in his interview with Kay Page...
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Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #400 on: October 02, 2021, 07:40:56 AM »
Did you notice Michael Fielder leading away Brett Collins after he'd been released without charge, to sell his story to the SUN for a four-figure sum?  Brett Collins must have been the instigator of their scoop about Bamber and himself hawking around nude photos of Sheila Caffell, even though he vehemently denied it in his interview with Kay Page...

Did you hear his projections at the end of the 2nd episode and beginning of the 3rd?

2nd episode
’She might have been quite an innocent girl down the track before she met him
They did have quite a closeness those two of doing bad things
I think there’s more to her than meets the eye


3rd episode
This is the kind of thing he wanted - Porsche - it’s ironic
Jeremy was a bit of a flash a flash joe you know they call them where they’re just nice they look nice and they live beyond their means - People think totally different of them they think they’re very successful
He did talk about wanting to get rid of the car his parents bought him he hated it it was a brand new car but he wanted a Porsche
Certain people that like that kind of thing just magnetise to him - But if they saw the other side of him of my god you know he had this this streak of destruction in him you know where he could just ruin his whole eh persona name everything people just go fffss he’s a maniac get rid of him

‘I think she had a wonderful early life with him - He’d say things like one day you and I’ll get married
They shared the mischievous side I think that she knew a rough scenario of things to come
He showed her when he did have the cash erm weekends away and erm lavish dinners and then he would play on the side with other girls without her knowing - I don’t think he had any plans of marrying at all but in her mind being young she thought well no need to look any further I’ve hit the jackpot
After the funeral and that’s when things blew up she called on Jeremy and there was another girl answer the phone she realised he’d been having other affairs she realised the gravy train had ffffss gone
She could come clean with her conscience
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Offline Nicholas

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« Reply #401 on: October 02, 2021, 07:50:47 AM »
’After the funeral and that’s when things blew up she called on Jeremy and there was another girl answer the phone she realised he’d been having other affairs she realised the gravy train had ffffss gone
She could come clean with her conscience [/i]

Excerpt form the Daily Mail - 1st November 1986

And he put massive strain on that trust by blatantly arranging a date with another women while Julie, who flew into a temper, listened.

The women was beautiful Angela Greaves who phoned his cottage after the massacre and has stuck by him since his trial began.

Even while Bamber was in Norwich jail awaiting trial, Angela believed to be from Kensington, London, visited him. And she was in the public gallery several times during his 19 day trial 

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Offline Nicholas

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« Reply #402 on: October 02, 2021, 08:49:52 AM »
Does anyone know what date Brett Collins arrived in the UK prior to the murders and on what date he departed for Greece?

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Offline Myster

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« Reply #403 on: October 02, 2021, 09:15:00 AM »
Does anyone know what date Brett Collins arrived in the UK prior to the murders and on what date he departed for Greece?
He arrived here some day after the 17th June, I think... but definitely left for three weeks in Greece on the 19th July.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Nicholas

Re: The Bambers: Murder at the farm - Sky Crime documentary
« Reply #404 on: October 02, 2021, 09:36:41 AM »
He arrived here some day after the 17th June, I think... but definitely left for three weeks in Greece on the 19th July.

Thanks

So Brett Collins could have been in ‘cahoots’ with Bamber prior to the murders and acted as his ‘sounding board’ around this time

I suspect he was

’They did have quite a closeness those two of doing bad things
I think there’s more to her than meets the eye

The way Brett Collins appears to have recently attempted to distance himself from Bamber and the drug deal that went wrong in New Zealand  🙄

’He did talk about wanting to get rid of the car his parents bought him he hated it it was a brand new car but he wanted a Porsche
Certain people that like that kind of thing just magnetise to him - But if they saw the other side of him of my god you know he had this this streak of destruction in him you know where he could just ruin his whole eh persona name everything people just go fffss he’s a maniac get rid of him

Did Brett Collins fly out to Greece because Bamber had told him he planned to murder his family?

’I think that she knew a rough scenario of things to come 

I think it was Brett Collins who ‘knew a rough scenario of things to come’

’she realised the gravy train had ffffss gone 

The ‘gravy train’ still being milked by Brett Collins
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