"Laughable eyewitness testimony"

[Kenmair]

Now what would you like to discuss?

Why is LM regarded as a danger to women (as per his last parole review) and is his recent engagement to his 6th gf from 2003 anything to do with his current parole/MAPPA terms?

LM seemed to be progressing until the disastrous leaked phone call from Lean last year. Do you think it was sabotage so she could try and stay relevant after admitting she knew he was guilty?

[faithlilly]

Why is LM regarded as a danger to women (as per his last parole review) and is his recent engagement to his 6th gf from 2003 anything to do with his current parole/MAPPA terms?

LM seemed to be progressing until the disastrous leaked phone call from Lean last year. Do you think it was sabotage so she could try and stay relevant after admitting she knew he was guilty?

You’re not asking me to discuss, you’re asking me to speculate and that won’t take us one inch forward.

[Kenmair]

You’re not asking me to discuss, you’re asking me to speculate and that won’t take us one inch forward.

I'm not asking you to do anything. You can engage if you want, or not. The burden of proof is on the naysayers, none of whom have moved the case forward one inch in 20 years.

There are pages of discussions/speculations, but as it stands LM's campaign is being lead by an ex- gf who has recently been cautioned for death threats and his former chief advocate SL, removed for financial improprieties. The campaign is riddled with fraudsters, sex offenders, murderers, domestic abusers etc and a half-arsed quote from David Wilson.

What is it you want to discuss?

[faithlilly]

I'm not asking you to do anything. You can engage if you want, or not. The burden of proof is on the naysayers, none of whom have moved the case forward one inch in 20 years.

There are pages of discussions/speculations, but as it stands LM's campaign is being lead by an ex- gf who has recently been cautioned for death threats and his former chief advocate SL, removed for financial improprieties. The campaign is riddled with fraudsters, sex offenders, murderers, domestic abusers etc and a half-arsed quote from David Wilson.

What is it you want to discuss?

And none of which makes Luke guilty.

[Vertigo Swirl]

And none of which makes Luke guilty.

You’d have to ask yourself why it’s mainly people with such poor judgement and self-discipline who have thrown themselves behind this campaign though wouldn’t you?  Or perhaps you would prefer not to..

[Kenmair]

And none of which makes Luke guilty.

He's already been found guilty. He's already been deemed a threat to females at parole. Maybe that's why he attracts the type of supporters that don't seem to have a problem with violence towards women.

[faithlilly]

He's already been found guilty. He's already been deemed a threat to females at parole. Maybe that's why he attracts the type of supporters that don't seem to have a problem with violence towards women.

Every miscarriage of justice began with a guilty verdict. Every victim of a miscarriage of justice was a convicted prisoner at one point.

I would say the majority of Luke’s supporters are women. Are you misogynistic enough to really believe that all those women condone violence towards their own sex?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Every miscarriage of justice began with a guilty verdict. Every victim of a miscarriage of justice was a convicted prisoner at one point.

I would say the majority of Luke’s supporters are women. Are you misogynistic enough to really believe that all those women condone violence towards their own sex?

That in itself is quite odd wouldn’t you say?  Is it because some women just love a bad boy?  Look at the fanmail serial killers attract, mainly from women.

[Kenmair]

I would say the majority of Luke’s supporters are women. Are you misogynistic enough to really believe that all those women condone violence towards their own sex?

Only you could introduce misogyny while defending a killer recently refused parole as being a danger to females. Most of LM's supporters might be women but they are only involved due to Lean & Forbes lies and nonsense. That is, they'll believe anything on facebook or channel 5 - many were scrabbling to meet him before his old girlfriend re-appeared recently.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Only you could introduce misogyny while defending a killer recently refused parole as being a danger to females. Most of LM's supporters might be women but they are only involved due to Lean & Forbes lies and nonsense. That is, they'll believe anything on facebook or channel 5 - many were scrabbling to meet him before his old girlfriend re-appeared recently.

Not just a killer but a killer of a female.  Of course this poster has form when it comes to defending vile men  in their crimes against women and girls, as well as more generalised misogyny such as referring to a well known married pair of journalists by his name only and to her as simply “the wife” in an continual attempt to belittle her achievements and views.

[faithlilly]

Only you could introduce misogyny while defending a killer recently refused parole as being a danger to females. Most of LM's supporters might be women but they are only involved due to Lean & Forbes lies and nonsense. That is, they'll believe anything on facebook or channel 5 - many were scrabbling to meet him before his old girlfriend re-appeared recently.

And there’s the misogyny right there. You really do damn yourself with your own words. Do you not think that women have to intellectual capacity to think for themselves? To do their own research?

[Vertigo Swirl]

And there’s the misogyny right there. You really do damn yourself with your own words. Do you not think that women have to intellectual capacity to think for themselves? To do their own research?

You obviously don’t based on your assessment of Summers and Swann.

[Kenmair]

And there’s the misogyny right there. You really do damn yourself with your own words. Do you not think that women have to intellectual capacity to think for themselves? To do their own research?

Many of the women in the LM campaign lack critical thinking skills - they believe what unqualified people tell them. Some have done their own research and left the campaign after finding out that the story they'd been fed by Lean was lies. The LM transcripts website is an excellent example of this.

Many of the male campaigners are criminals or ex-criminals, often with female related offences.

You still haven't addressed why he would be refused parole as a danger to females.

[faithlilly]

Many of the women in the LM campaign lack critical thinking skills - they believe what unqualified people tell them. Some have done their own research and left the campaign after finding out that the story they'd been fed by Lean was lies. The LM transcripts website is an excellent example of this.

Many of the male campaigners are criminals or ex-criminals, often with female related offences.

You still haven't addressed why he would be refused parole as a danger to females.

What do you think the transcripts have revealed that have convinced some women to leave the campaign? TBH I’ve studied every transcript so far and have found nothing to make me change my mind.

As to the parole question…without view of the psychiatric report in question any opinion would only be speculative on my part. How would that help?

[Kenmair]

What do you think the transcripts have revealed that have convinced some women to leave the campaign? TBH I’ve studied every transcript so far and have found nothing to make me change my mind.

As to the parole question…without view of the psychiatric report in question any opinion would only be speculative on my part. How would that help?

The transcripts revealed how much chief campaigner and ex-POA SL had distorted the facts via podcasts, protests, TV and books, when there was no need to tell so many lies if a truthful account was being presented. The transcripts website goes into this in detail. Many campaigners (both M/F) are still parroting her lies.

The parole decision deemed LM to be a sexual risk to females. It was approved under MAPPA via numerous agencies not just SPS or the psychiatric report (Orchard Clinic consultant).

Your whole approach has been speculative so why would you need to see the psych report when you presumably made a decision on LM many years ago without full disclosure?