The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner

[Vertigo Swirl]

Of course the McCanns had no motive for abducting their own child. That's a rather silly idea I think.

No one mooted that idea.

[Ms Para glider]

No one mooted that idea.

She is likely referring to the original comment I made that CB had a motive to take Madeleine and the McCanns didn't. She knew how that comment was meant and I already clarified it on page 1 after she decided to nitpick it the first time. And yet again she is deliberately misrepresenting a point that she knows nobody is trying to claim. It's disgusting behaviour from someone who is meant to be moderating the thread.

[Vertigo Swirl]

She is likely referring to the original comment I made that CB had a motive to take Madeleine and the McCanns didn't. She knew how that comment was meant and I already clarified it on page 1 after she decided to nitpick it the first time. And yet again she is deliberately misrepresenting a point that she knows nobody is trying to claim. It's disgusting behaviour from someone who is meant to be moderating the thread.

What is very clear is that G-Unit and her ilk will never admit that CB ticks ALL the boxes for the crime of child abduction/murder.  Of course we don't know for certain that that is the crime that has been committed in this case but as "parental involvement" and "woke and wandered" have certainly been eliminated by the two police forces investigating it (and by anyone who is able to assess the evidence logically and objectively) then it doesn't leave many other options.   So if Madeleine WAS abducted and murdered then someone who ticks all the boxes should certainly be investigated exhaustively and thoroughly until he or she can be definitively eliminated or charged.  And that is what is happening now, but some people aren't very happy about it, it would seem. 

[G-Unit]

What is very clear is that G-Unit and her ilk will never admit that CB ticks ALL the boxes for the crime of child abduction/murder.  Of course we don't know for certain that that is the crime that has been committed in this case but as "parental involvement" and "woke and wandered" have certainly been eliminated by the two police forces investigating it (and by anyone who is able to assess the evidence logically and objectively) then it doesn't leave many other options.   So if Madeleine WAS abducted and murdered then someone who ticks all the boxes should certainly be investigated exhaustively and thoroughly until he or she can be definitively eliminated or charged.  And that is what is happening now, but some people aren't very happy about it, it would seem.

Box-ticking can help to identify suspects but there's also those who don't tick the boxes. Jim Gamble knew there were such people, which is why he advised Gerry McCann to say this;

In his daily online blog, Gerry wrote: “Sometimes people do things for reasons that even they cannot understand.


“An act of madness, an accident or sudden impulse can lead to consequences that people may never have imagined or intended.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1291349/gerry-mccann-appeal-madeleine-mccann-abductor-german-suspect-murder-portugal-spt

Gamble was acknowledging that sometimes people act out of character, and box-ticking can't help to identify those people. It's a tool, that's all.

[Erngath]

Box-ticking can help to identify suspects but there's also those who don't tick the boxes. Jim Gamble knew there were such people, which is why he advised Gerry McCann to say this;

In his daily online blog, Gerry wrote: “Sometimes people do things for reasons that even they cannot understand.


“An act of madness, an accident or sudden impulse can lead to consequences that people may never have imagined or intended.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1291349/gerry-mccann-appeal-madeleine-mccann-abductor-german-suspect-murder-portugal-spt

Gamble was acknowledging that sometimes people act out of character, and box-ticking can't help to identify those people. It's a tool, that's all.

Can't you see you are flogging a dead horse?

[Ms Para glider]

Am I allowed to talk?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Box-ticking can help to identify suspects but there's also those who don't tick the boxes. Jim Gamble knew there were such people, which is why he advised Gerry McCann to say this;

In his daily online blog, Gerry wrote: “Sometimes people do things for reasons that even they cannot understand.


“An act of madness, an accident or sudden impulse can lead to consequences that people may never have imagined or intended.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1291349/gerry-mccann-appeal-madeleine-mccann-abductor-german-suspect-murder-portugal-spt

Gamble was acknowledging that sometimes people act out of character, and box-ticking can't help to identify those people. It's a tool, that's all.

Jim Gamble believes Madeleine was abducted by a stranger.  Do you agree with him now, all of a sudden? 

[G-Unit]

Jim Gamble believes Madeleine was abducted by a stranger.  Do you agree with him now, all of a sudden?

He does, but he wasn't always so sure.

[Vertigo Swirl]

He does, but he wasn't always so sure.

But he is firmly convinced now, so given that you are quoting him as some sort of authority now does that mean you have finally come to terms with the idea that Madeleine was abducted by a stranger?  A straight answer to this question would be lovely, but not expected.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Jim Gamble clearly believes Christian Brückner ticks the boxes, thanks for bringing him into the discussion G-Unit:

Last night, Mr Gamble – the former head of the National Crime Agency’s child unit –said Brueckner is a “driven sexual predator”.

He said: “When you’re tracking someone of this nature, what’s critical to remember is there’s never only one offence.


“The nature of these people and the way they are driven towards offending, you don’t get a one-off offender.

“You can see is he has offended against girls and against older women. So he has no particular preference, he is a driven and motivated sexual predator.

“There is a huge likelihood they would have offended there multiple times.”

He added: “You have someone who has that propensity to live by virtue of theft, in petty crimes.

“He also has a deviant sexual history. And if you put that person in that place at that time and those series of events, you have the potential for the tragedy that the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is.”

“Because if you look at this from an objective point of view, you have someone with a history of abusing children.

“You have someone with a history of crime, including burglary, someone who was suspected of rape in that area and you have someone who's known the area quite well, lived in several locations.

“With all of that, and someone who can be placed near the scene at the time of the crime, and then whose conduct posts events after the crime is extremely suspicious.”

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[G-Unit]

But he is firmly convinced now, so given that you are quoting him as some sort of authority now does that mean you have finally come to terms with the idea that Madeleine was abducted by a stranger?  A straight answer to this question would be lovely, but not expected.

I was simply pointing out that the police are as aware as I am that box ticking may be of use, but there are those who don't tick the boxes.

[Ms Para glider]

Jim Gamble clearly believes Christian Brückner ticks the boxes, thanks for bringing him into the discussion G-Unit:

Last night, Mr Gamble – the former head of the National Crime Agency’s child unit –said Brueckner is a “driven sexual predator”.

He said: “When you’re tracking someone of this nature, what’s critical to remember is there’s never only one offence.


“The nature of these people and the way they are driven towards offending, you don’t get a one-off offender.

“You can see is he has offended against girls and against older women. So he has no particular preference, he is a driven and motivated sexual predator.

“There is a huge likelihood they would have offended there multiple times.”

He added: “You have someone who has that propensity to live by virtue of theft, in petty crimes.

“He also has a deviant sexual history. And if you put that person in that place at that time and those series of events, you have the potential for the tragedy that the disappearance of Madeleine McCann is.”

“Because if you look at this from an objective point of view, you have someone with a history of abusing children.

“You have someone with a history of crime, including burglary, someone who was suspected of rape in that area and you have someone who's known the area quite well, lived in several locations.

“With all of that, and someone who can be placed near the scene at the time of the crime, and then whose conduct posts events after the crime is extremely suspicious.”

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That's an awful lot of ticked boxes.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I was simply pointing out that the police are as aware as I am that box ticking may be of use, but there are those who don't tick the boxes.

Does Brückner tick the boxes in your view?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Does Brückner tick the boxes in your view?

And answer, as expected, came there none.

[sadie]

 

That's an awful lot of ticked boxes.

Six attempts ?    Aw, that is awful.   

Similar things used to happen to me all the time.  Then I wasn't able to enter the forum , sometimes for months on end.

Also long posts that I had spent a long time researching and typing up just vanished and I was continually logged out.
Additionally, I was prevented from logging in again by various devious means.  And funny things happened to what I had typed, like changing the posts meaning entirely.


I suggest that you ensure that you are able to reach at least one other UK Forum supporter so that your voice can be heard on forum, or at the very least they can inform John.


Is it you, Gunit, who is refusing Para2030s posts ?