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Offline The General

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #525 on: March 23, 2022, 11:23:38 AM »
If there were leads to investigate which suggested Madeleine was abducted would you have had them remain uninvestigated in case they didn't lead to proof that she had been abducted?  Would you have preferred the £13m to have been spent staking out Rothley instead?
There'd be no point staking out Rothley, they'd get on to that pretty quick.
Electronic surveillance, such as resonant microphones, phone tapping and drone cameras would probably cost a fraction of £13 million, and at least we would have answers.
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Offline Ms Para glider

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #526 on: March 23, 2022, 11:33:42 AM »
Sounds like Brueckner’s plan to "sit back and relax" is backfiring. Prisoners with pointy objects don't appear to have taken kindly to his cocky, goading letters broadcast in the last German documentary. Nor do they require the same burden of proof as the authorities to enact their own brand of justice, or so Brueckner apparently fears.

Maybe it wasn't such a great idea to sit on that cast iron alibi after all.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-14-page-26534992

Offline The General

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #527 on: March 23, 2022, 11:53:48 AM »
Sounds like Brueckner’s plan to "sit back and relax" is backfiring. Prisoners with pointy objects don't appear to have taken kindly to his cocky, goading letters broadcast in the last German documentary. Nor do they require the same burden of proof as the authorities to enact their own brand of justice, or so Brueckner apparently fears.

Maybe it wasn't such a great idea to sit on that cast iron alibi after all.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-14-page-26534992
Putting the dubious provenance aside, or at least I will, you could read between the lines. Notwithstanding the ever present hazard of, quite rightly in my opinion, being shivved as a nonce, there's a more subtle subtext at work. The seemingly frivolous legal action about his alleged maltreatment of dogs was a mere device. So is this.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #528 on: March 23, 2022, 11:59:47 AM »
Sounds like Brueckner’s plan to "sit back and relax" is backfiring. Prisoners with pointy objects don't appear to have taken kindly to his cocky, goading letters broadcast in the last German documentary. Nor do they require the same burden of proof as the authorities to enact their own brand of justice, or so Brueckner apparently fears.

Maybe it wasn't such a great idea to sit on that cast iron alibi after all.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-suspects-14-page-26534992
Perhaps his defenders on here could have a whip round and buy him some creamer for his coffee? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline The General

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #529 on: March 23, 2022, 12:59:31 PM »
Perhaps his defenders on here could have a whip round and buy him some creamer for his coffee?
Don't not not don't read this.....go on then.
There'll be no shortage of that, I'm sure.
But what's to defend? I'm not defending him, because he didn't do it. I'm commenting on that alone. There's nothing to defend.
One must be able to emotionally separate oneself from the heinous nature of his previous crimes / alleged crimes, for one to dispassionately analyse this latest accusation.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #530 on: March 23, 2022, 01:09:14 PM »
If there were leads to investigate which suggested Madeleine was abducted would you have had them remain uninvestigated in case they didn't lead to proof that she had been abducted?  Would you have preferred the £13m to have been spent staking out Rothley instead?

So what the police do is decide what crime has been committed before they examine the evidence?

The public remit for Operation Grange sought only to explore an abduction theory, with no other possibilities to be investigated.
https://www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-operation-grange-investigation-will-be-closed-reports/2a5da18a-92cc-4bf5-ac22-14760d696431

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Offline Brietta

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #531 on: March 23, 2022, 01:27:26 PM »
I'm surprised there's been nothing said by Wolters about the suggestion that CB may never be charged. He was allegedly so accessible previously; journalists have frequently quoted him.

I think you've got that wrong.

I know that Wolters has outlined the very strict evidential conditions which will allow the case against a suspect - in this case Brueckner - to proceed to trial.

Since I am not on Wolter's 'friends and family' list - I could only have got it from the media.  Surprised you didn't clock or ping it too.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #532 on: March 23, 2022, 01:28:36 PM »
So what the police do is decide what crime has been committed before they examine the evidence?

The public remit for Operation Grange sought only to explore an abduction theory, with no other possibilities to be investigated.
https://www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-operation-grange-investigation-will-be-closed-reports/2a5da18a-92cc-4bf5-ac22-14760d696431


where is the evidence to support that claim

Offline faithlilly

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #533 on: March 23, 2022, 01:29:26 PM »
So what the police do is decide what crime has been committed before they examine the evidence?

The public remit for Operation Grange sought only to explore an abduction theory, with no other possibilities to be investigated.
https://www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-operation-grange-investigation-will-be-closed-reports/2a5da18a-92cc-4bf5-ac22-14760d696431

With no charges brought after millions spent the lack of breadth in the OG remit will hurt rather than heal the parents reputations forever.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #534 on: March 23, 2022, 01:33:26 PM »
So what the police do is decide what crime has been committed before they examine the evidence?

The public remit for Operation Grange sought only to explore an abduction theory, with no other possibilities to be investigated.
https://www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-operation-grange-investigation-will-be-closed-reports/2a5da18a-92cc-4bf5-ac22-14760d696431
Where did Operation Grange state that no other possibilities would be investigated?  You think if the police uncovered CCTV clearly showing Gerry McCann carrying his daughter’s corpse they would have ignored it and continued investigating stranger abduction?  Is that seriously what you believe?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline The General

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #535 on: March 23, 2022, 01:35:27 PM »
So what the police do is decide what crime has been committed before they examine the evidence?

The public remit for Operation Grange sought only to explore an abduction theory, with no other possibilities to be investigated.
https://www.9news.com.au/world/madeleine-mccann-operation-grange-investigation-will-be-closed-reports/2a5da18a-92cc-4bf5-ac22-14760d696431
HCW / BKA have gone one step further, they started at a suspect. The fact that they clearly can't cobble together enough evidence to support their assertion demonstrates as adeptly as is possible why this approach is flawed.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #536 on: March 23, 2022, 01:37:52 PM »
With no charges brought after millions spent the lack of breadth in the OG remit will hurt rather than heal the parents reputations forever.
Don’t be silly, that’s just your wishful thinking.  For example when the subject of Madeleine came up at home the other day, my daughter (who always used to think the parents dunnit) said “I thought they’d caught the paedo who took her?”  I’m fairly certain she’s typical of the vast majority of people who haven’t really been stuck deep in the minutiae of this case like us saddoes.  None cares about the McCanns or their reputation, they are getting on with their lives, only people like you hold an eternal grudge towards them.  Time to get over it!!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline barrier

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #537 on: March 23, 2022, 01:42:43 PM »
Theres no thinking about it.. Wolters has said
Disclosure .. Double jeopardy

Yep, not the right kind of evidence to put to CB or even a judge, Mr Wolters said: “It is circumstantial evidence – we have no scientific evidence. If we had a video of the act or a picture of Madeleine dead with Brueckner on camera, we wouldn’t have had to make a public appeal. But we only have circumstantial evidence.”
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline The General

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #538 on: March 23, 2022, 01:47:36 PM »
With no charges brought after millions spent the lack of breadth in the OG remit will hurt rather than heal the parents reputations forever.
It's more absurd than that; Operation Grange will cease to exist (and I'm convinced that it actually currently represents a couple of civilian police administrators sat in a cupboard waiting to answer a phone that doesn't ring, exhausting every mini-series ever created, eating Doritos, kipping intermittently and taking it in turns to nick off early) and HCW will pop up with a statement reasserting his / their stance. Jesus, they had a chance to at least save some semblance of dignity when Dick came back from 'discussions' with HCW. But no, she nibbled round the edges and trotted out some hastily cobbled together rhetorical, meaningless soundbite about how they're 'still looking for a missing person'. The ineptitude of the Met transcends all known standards.
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Offline Brietta

Re: The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner
« Reply #539 on: March 23, 2022, 01:48:17 PM »
Unequivocal evidence of stranger abduction might justify spending £13M over 11 years to follow leads. Without that evidence it could be said that resources were wasted.

What utter arrogance that you set yourself up against experienced professional investigators who have determined that Brueckner is the chief suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

The fact that Brueckner is the unequivocal suspect based on unequivocal evidence should really have penetrated your unequivocal prejudices ere now.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....