The boxes ticked by prime suspect Brueckner

[Mr Gray]

This is basically what it is all about.

Madeleine McCann was a British Citizen lost abroad and The PJ tried to pin it on her parents for an easy answer.

It was the duty of the English Police to try to find out what actually happened.  That is what your Passport says.

Whether or not it was Brueckner is still debatable.  But why would The Germans pursue this for the sake of a British child who is actually nothing to do with them?

Because it isn't for the sake of a British child.. Its for the sake of catching criminals...

[Eleanor]

Because it isn't for the sake of a British child.. Its for the sake of catching criminals...

Oh.  Okay.  So the rest of it is irrelevant.

For how long was a possible German Criminal wandering around committing crimes in Portugal before The Germans cottoned on?

I don't have a problem with Germany and their approach.  But this only really kicked off with Madeleine.

[Mr Gray]

Oh.  Okay.  So the rest of it is irrelevant.

For how long was a possible German Criminal wandering around committing crimes in Portugal before The Germans cottoned on?

I don't have a problem with Germany and their approach.  But this only really kicked off with Madeleine.

How long... For as long as the Portuguese allowed him.to

[Eleanor]

How long... For as long as the Portuguese allowed him.to

Exactly.  But who would have cared if Madeleine wasn't British?  Joanna Cipriano?

Portugal is an utter disgrace and has been for many a long year.  Why is this do you think?

[John]

I have decided to do a full moderator review given recent events and as it is badly overdue.

Anyone wishing to provide an input to this process please message me.

[John]

This is basically what it is all about.

Madeleine McCann was a British Citizen lost abroad and The PJ tried to pin it on her parents for an easy answer.

It was the duty of the English Police to try to find out what actually happened.  That is what your Passport says.

Whether or not it was Brueckner is still debatable.  But why would The Germans pursue this for the sake of a British child who is actually nothing to do with them?

It is well known that family members are the first to be suspected when a child disappears. Consequently, the Portuguese police were wholly correct to investigate the parents. The McCanns did themselves no favour by working against the local police, they only had themselves to blame for what later transpired. Kate McCanns refusal to answer simple questions during her arguida interview was quite pathetic for someone who claimed to be innocent of any involvement in her daughters disappearance, what the hell was she thinking?

[Eleanor]

It is well known that family members are the first to be suspected when a child disappears. Consequently, the Portuguese police were wholly correct to investigate the parents. The McCanns did themselves no favour by working against the local police, they only had themselves to blame for what later transpired. Kate McCanns refusal to answer simple questions during her arguida interview was quite pathetic for someone who claimed to be innocent of any involvement in her daughters disappearance, what the hell was she thinking?

From you who was apparently the victim of the worst miscarriage of justice ever.  And I think you probably were.

I actually read everything about your case.

[Mr Gray]

It is well known that family members are the first to be suspected when a child disappears. Consequently, the Portuguese police were wholly correct to investigate the parents. The McCanns did themselves no favour by working against the local police, they only had themselves to blame for what later transpired. Kate McCanns refusal to answer simple questions during her arguida interview was quite pathetic for someone who claimed to be innocent of any involvement in her daughters disappearance, what the hell was she thinking?

Sorry John but no doubt the McCanns should have been suspects initial but what took the investigation in the direction it went was the PJs belief in the infallibility of the dogs... The false claim that in 200 cases they had never given a false alert for instance. Kate was absolutely right to stop answering stupid questions... Imo

[John]

From you who was apparently the victim of the worst miscarriage of justice ever.  And I think you probably were.

I actually read everything about your case.

You must remember that I was a serving police officer Eleanor and speak with that background.

[John]

Sorry John but no doubt the McCanns should have been suspects initial but what took the investigation in the direction it went was the PJs belief in the infallibility of the dogs... The false claim that in 200 cases they had never given a false alert for instance

I think the CSI dogs reacted as they were trained to do but the interpretation of those reactions left much to be desired.

Certainly too much evidential weight was afforded them without corroboration.

[Eleanor]

Are we allowed to know which Mods have survived the cull?

It will all become apparent in an hour or ten.  But I am back because I am no longer restrained.

Whether or not this will be of any use remains to be seen.  Probably not.  I might have lost the will to go on repeating everything we already know.  Nine years of Moderating has been hard.

Brueckner will probably refuse to say anything, which will be his ultimate demise.

[Eleanor]

You must remember that I was a serving police officer Eleanor and speak with that background.

Did I ever question that?  But assuming that you were, what went wrong with The PJ?

[Eleanor]

Interesting.  Nothing from Sceptics about my demise.  That is really funny.

As it is, I think that Davel is almost certainly right.  Much as it grieves me.  But it was all such a long time ago.  And I can't get really upset about this anymore.

Gunit seems to have survived the cull, but then that is what it was all about.  I haven't just come up The Clyde on a water biscuit.  My days have been numbered for quite some time.  And I knew that.

Sadly, I can only reiterate, so not a lot of use.

But I do believe that Brueckner tried to set up an alibi on that night.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It will all become apparent in an hour or ten.  But I am back because I am no longer restrained.

Whether or not this will be of any use remains to be seen.  Probably not.  I might have lost the will to go on repeating everything we already know.  Nine years of Moderating has been hard.

Brueckner will probably refuse to say anything, which will be his ultimate demise.

I’d rather have you here and not a mod, than an awol mod, so - welcome back Chimp.

[Eleanor]

I’d rather have you here and not a mod, than an awol mod, so - welcome back Chimp.

Gosh.  That is so kind.  And right to the heart of it.  Chimps for ever.  And what fun we had.  They didn't even know that we were there or what we were doing.

Tis feeling a bit good to be back.