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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #465 on: July 31, 2022, 09:53:42 PM »
You don't seem to understand that the SOL hasn't expired, it's been extended.

Cite please... Or are you making things up

Offline sadie

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #466 on: August 01, 2022, 12:17:30 AM »
She's not a child, remember!  Your four OG mates discovered her as a nineteen-year-old adult, now full-time mum and happily ensconced in the bosom of an altruistic (albeit wicked and crooked) loving family... but they're keeping it TOP SECRET until the right time (whenever that will be, if ever), according to your deluded agenda.

Oh, did they?

Thanks for letting me know.   Seems I was right then. 

Did she safely give birth ths time?  The family will have got what they wanted then.   Hope they haven't stuck her in a nunnery somewhere to hide her away


Offline sadie

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #467 on: August 01, 2022, 12:24:22 AM »
After the expiry of the SOL ....no arguidos can be made...im not surprised you didnt realise that

In what way could they be working closely if not on the CB case...what else could tehy be working on

So, does this mean if another man appears who they feel strongly is the abductor, they can't charge him?

Offline misty

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #468 on: August 01, 2022, 12:59:13 AM »
I don't think your cite says "NO ONE ELSE CAN BE MADE ARGUIDO IN THE MM CASE DUE TO THE SIL." As you can't produce a cite it seems you are posting your opinion as if it's fact.
https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2019-12/ndr-2017-005_synthese_en_neutralisee_finale.pdf
page 15/22

*snipped*

(a) THE EXTENT OF THE EFFECTS OF THE INTERRUPTION OF
THE LIMITATION PERIOD
48. Although, in Germany and Portugal, the interruption has effects solely in respect of
the offender(s), since the grounds for interruption are personal and not transferable,




Only Brueckner is the subject of any continued investigation.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #469 on: August 01, 2022, 06:48:50 AM »
https://curia.europa.eu/jcms/upload/docs/application/pdf/2019-12/ndr-2017-005_synthese_en_neutralisee_finale.pdf
page 15/22

*snipped*

(a) THE EXTENT OF THE EFFECTS OF THE INTERRUPTION OF
THE LIMITATION PERIOD
48. Although, in Germany and Portugal, the interruption has effects solely in respect of
the offender(s), since the grounds for interruption are personal and not transferable,




Only Brueckner is the subject of any continued investigation.

Thank you so much Misty, that's what was needed.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #470 on: August 01, 2022, 07:39:31 AM »
You don't seem to understand that the SOL hasn't expired, it's been extended.

Looks like I understood very well and you didnt

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #471 on: August 01, 2022, 07:42:22 AM »
So, does this mean if another man appears who they feel strongly is the abductor, they can't charge him?

Strangely if Maddie is still alive they have until she's 23 to charge

Offline Eleanor

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #472 on: August 01, 2022, 07:56:31 AM »
You don't seem to understand that the SOL hasn't expired, it's been extended.

But only for one suspect.  The SOL is a personal thing and cannot be extended to everyone once that date has passed.

Offline Brietta

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #473 on: August 01, 2022, 08:18:02 AM »
Thank you so much Misty, that's what was needed.

Like so many other issues concerning Madeleine's case the arguments surrounding it must be absolutely unique and reserved in totality to her.

First among those must be the absolutely horrid and unprecedentedly organised mobs feeling free to make the most spurious and hateful slurs against Madeleine and her parents.

That has been going on for every second of every day over a mind boggling period of fifteen years with some perpetrators making a lucrative career for themselves out of it.

The second most disturbing phenomenon arising directly from that unbalanced hatred is the absolute denial that any police suspect who is a stranger to the targets the mob has chosen to persecute must be a "patsy".
The PJ suspected Euclides Monteiro and investigated him to universal ridicule.  Similar to that engendered by today's prime suspect who was thus able to continue his life hiding in plain view.

"Reports state that Monteiro, a heroin addict, had been working as an employee at The Ocean Club Resort in Praia da Luz shortly before the toddler disappeared on May 3, 2007.
Reports state that Monteiro, 40 years old at the time, had been fired from his job at the beach club for stealing from guests shortly before Madeleine disappeared. He aroused police suspicions after phone records showed that he returned to the resort a year after being fired.

Officials said that he may have wanted revenge against his former employers, and thought that he may have stumbled across Madeleine while trying to burgle from the McCann's room,
Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha, in 2013, said: "The motives that could have caused the ex-employee to kidnap the youngster are still being investigated. The suspect could have taken the child to commit a sex crime before killing her. But he could also have committed the kidnap as a form of retaliation against the Ocean Club."

Officials reportedly lost crucial time to interview Monteiro because his name was missing from a list of former and current employees at the resort which was given to police during the investigation.

Detectives, however, were set to question Monteiro after identifying him as a suspect following the suspicious phone records. However, they never got the chance to question him as he died in a tractor accident in 2009."

https://meaww.com/madeleine-mccann-chief-suspect-euclides-monteiro-never-interviewed-cops-credible-theory-abduction

Just because three police forces have made Brueckner their prime suspect doesn't automatically make him innocent as the internet sceptics presume.
Their malice was never right under any circumstances but is particularly unwarranted right now.  I think the total mystery right now is their inability to think rationally about the situation even as depicted in the public domain let alone considering the police evidence firmly making him prime suspect - not only in this one case - but in a myriad of others.
« Last Edit: August 01, 2022, 08:23:57 AM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #474 on: August 01, 2022, 08:32:51 AM »
Like so many other issues concerning Madeleine's case the arguments surrounding it must be absolutely unique and reserved in totality to her.

First among those must be the absolutely horrid and unprecedentedly organised mobs feeling free to make the most spurious and hateful slurs against Madeleine and her parents.

That has been going on for every second of every day over a mind boggling period of fifteen years with some perpetrators making a lucrative career for themselves out of it.

The second most disturbing phenomenon arising directly from that unbalanced hatred is the absolute denial that any police suspect who is a stranger to the targets the mob has chosen to persecute must be a "patsy".
The PJ suspected Euclides Monteiro and investigated him to universal ridicule.  Similar to that engendered by today's prime suspect who was thus able to continue his life hiding in plain view.

"Reports state that Monteiro, a heroin addict, had been working as an employee at The Ocean Club Resort in Praia da Luz shortly before the toddler disappeared on May 3, 2007.
Reports state that Monteiro, 40 years old at the time, had been fired from his job at the beach club for stealing from guests shortly before Madeleine disappeared. He aroused police suspicions after phone records showed that he returned to the resort a year after being fired.

Officials said that he may have wanted revenge against his former employers, and thought that he may have stumbled across Madeleine while trying to burgle from the McCann's room,
Portuguese newspaper Correio da Manha, in 2013, said: "The motives that could have caused the ex-employee to kidnap the youngster are still being investigated. The suspect could have taken the child to commit a sex crime before killing her. But he could also have committed the kidnap as a form of retaliation against the Ocean Club."

Officials reportedly lost crucial time to interview Monteiro because his name was missing from a list of former and current employees at the resort which was given to police during the investigation.

Detectives, however, were set to question Monteiro after identifying him as a suspect following the suspicious phone records. However, they never got the chance to question him as he died in a tractor accident in 2009."

https://meaww.com/madeleine-mccann-chief-suspect-euclides-monteiro-never-interviewed-cops-credible-theory-abduction

Just because three police forces have made Brueckner their prime suspect doesn't automatically make him innocent as the internet sceptics presume.
Their malice was never right under any circumstances but is particularly unwarranted right now.  I think the total mystery right now is their inability to think rationally about the situation even as depicted in the public domain let alone considering the police evidence firmly making him prime suspect - not only in this one case - but in a myriad of others.

Well, it doesn't make him guilty either does it.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #475 on: August 01, 2022, 08:33:52 AM »
Personally, I don't understand how it is no longer possible to prosecute someone for Murder in Portugal after only fifteen years.

And why did Portugal make Brueckner an Arguido only at the last minute?  This stinks.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #476 on: August 01, 2022, 08:40:10 AM »
Personally, I don't understand how it is no longer possible to prosecute someone for Murder in Portugal after only fifteen years.

And why did Portugal make Brueckner an Arguido only at the last minute?  This stinks.

Wolters kept the concrete evidence from them until the last minute.
Give him time he might also share it with the MET the McCanns or maybe even a judge one day, just not anytime in the foreseeable future though.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #477 on: August 01, 2022, 08:47:04 AM »
Thank you so much Misty, that's what was needed.

That is another procedure which should be added to the mix called "common knowledge" which doesn't require to be challenged each and every time requiring a trawl through the Portuguese Codes to retrieve the cite.

You still have difficulty with the changes made to the code on 15th September 2007 which meant the McCanns could not have been constituted arguido without a presiding judge being presented with justifying evidence.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #478 on: August 01, 2022, 08:59:37 AM »

Portugal has always had access to any evidence.  But chose not to pursue it until the last minute.  If in fact they are doing so now.

What a disgraceful shower.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Anti facebook groups etc
« Reply #479 on: August 01, 2022, 09:01:49 AM »
Looks like I understood very well and you didnt

If you are in possession of facts, you have to be able to show your sources. Thankfully someone was able to help you with that.
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