Madeleine McCann's parents lose libel case with the European Court of Human Rights

[Eleanor]

I guess as soon as HCW is sacked he can write a bestselling book claiming CB dunnit even if the investigation  into the latter is dropped.  That’s his pension fund sorted anyway.

That could be a good one.  No point in Brueckner suing, is there.

[Brietta]

We now know what isn't defamatory though.

I know what is and what is not libellous.  Experience indicates there are those who do not share that knowledge.  I will be obliged therefor for you to refrain from my inclusion in any "we" you incline to post on that or any other subject.

[sadie]

It's just an expired certificate or some other minor issue - chill out girl.

No, it is not.

It is a serious warning.  Ignore it at your peril, or more likely at The Mccanns peril.  Cos it could all be altered from the original


Cheating.  I hate it, but seem to thrive on it.


BTW, have you seen Matt James recently and his two wizards, older and younger with the hots etc etc. for a young lady who is supposed to be Madeleine     It implies that she was pregnant and they tried by IVF same as Kate.  Also by natural means.     Hmm, very interesting if you can find your way in. 

It seems to have been blocked a few months or so ago.   I wonder why?

[sadie]

Sadie, the McCanns lost, it’s on the BBC website.

I am aware and despair, but for that black triangle to come up is a warning that something is wrong .   I think that phrases may have been changed.   I feel sorry for Anthro latching on to it tbh.

[The General]

No, it is not.

It is a serious warning.  Ignore it at your peril, or more likely at The Mccanns peril.  Cos it could all be altered from the original


Cheating.  I hate it, but seem to thrive on it.


BTW, have you seen Matt James recently and his two wizards, older and younger with the hots etc etc. for a young lady who is supposed to be Madeleine     It implies that she was pregnant and they tried by IVF same as Kate.  Also by natural means.     Hmm, very interesting if you can find your way in. 

It seems to have been blocked a few months or so ago.   I wonder why?

It is intriguing, I have to say.

[Brietta]

The McCann's unfounded claim that Mr Amaral's unfounded claims were having a detrimental impact on the search for Madeleine may explain their initial actions. How do they justify continuing after that claim was dismissed by the court of the first instant I wonder?

There was no active search of any kind except for that organised and funded by Madeleine McCanns parents.  Based on the content of Amaral's book you and many others have resisted severally and individually all and any investigation into Madeleine's abduction.

Your flawed opinions and Amaral's flawed opinions all based on flawed 'evidence' mean absolutely nothing now.

The McCanns have got what they wanted with the evidence based inquiry into a prime suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.  How sad are those why decry hoping there will be answers as a result.

[Vertigo Swirl]

That could be a good one.  No point in Brueckner suing, is there.

I guess what this ruling means is that any ex cop can write a book about any investigation he or she was involved in and conclude thst the person they were investigating for a particular crime was actually responsible, even if susbsequently that person was cleared or charges dropped, eg the case of Colin Stagg, or any of the numerous cases against celebrities such as Cliff Richard and Leon Brittain.  Their fault for being  accused in the first place, and their fault for either being well known or publicly campaigning to try and clear their name.  That all seems very fair I’m sure.

[The General]

I guess what this ruling means is that any ex cop can write a book about any investigation he or she was involved in and conclude thst the person they were investigating for a particular crime was actually responsible, even if susbsequently that person was cleared or charges dropped, eg the case of Colin Stagg, or any of the numerous cases against celebrities such as Cliff Richard and Leon Brittain.  Their fault for being  accused in the first place, and their fault for either being well known or publicly campaigning to try and clear their name.  That all seems very fair I’m sure.

If you think this is a victory for Amaral, you are mistaken. He's been unanimously vindicted, yes, but at what personal toll?

[Eleanor]

I guess what this ruling means is that any ex cop can write a book about any investigation he or she was involved in and conclude thst the person they were investigating for a particular crime was actually responsible, even if susbsequently that person was cleared or charges dropped, eg the case of Colin Stagg, or any of the numerous cases against celebrities such as Cliff Richard and Leon Brittain.  Their fault for being  accused in the first place, and their fault for either being well known or publicly campaigning to try and clear their name.  That all seems very fair I’m sure.

This Ruling rather puts paid to me being of any use as a Moderator when it comes to Freedom of Speech.  A can of worms has just been opened.

[The General]

This Ruling rather puts paid to me being of any use as a Moderator when it comes to Freedom of Speech.  A can of worms has just been opened.

Freedom of speech is the winner here today.
We're currently living in a country where you can't politely berate a royal nonce without being beaten to the ground and arrested.

[Eleanor]

If you think this is a victory for Amaral, you are mistaken. He's been unanimously vindicted, yes, but at what personal toll?

Amaral is a self serving moron.  But will he shut up now?  I somewhat doubt it.  Things could get really interesting.

[faithlilly]

I guess what this ruling means is that any ex cop can write a book about any investigation he or she was involved in and conclude thst the person they were investigating for a particular crime was actually responsible, even if susbsequently that person was cleared or charges dropped, eg the case of Colin Stagg, or any of the numerous cases against celebrities such as Cliff Richard and Leon Brittain.  Their fault for being  accused in the first place, and their fault for either being well known or publicly campaigning to try and clear their name.  That all seems very fair I’m sure.

Did DCI Keith Pedder write just such a book in relation to Colin Stagg?

[The General]

Amaral is a self serving moron.  But will he shut up now?  I somewhat doubt it.  Things could get really interesting.

Now you're getting the hang of it - freedom to call Amaral what you like without fear of legal action.
Well, not quite; you can say / type it, but it may be tested down the line in a civil court. How it should be. Hurrah for   Orwell.

[jassi]

Amaral is a self serving moron. But will he shut up now? I somewhat doubt it.  Things could get really interesting.

Who knows or even cares ?
No doubt as long as someone is prepared to ask/pay for a quote, he's likely  to respond. And why not?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Did DCI Keith Pedder write just such a book in relation to Colin Stagg?

Did he?  I don't know. Was he a pc when he wrote it or had he retired?  Did Stagg sue?