Madeleine McCann's parents lose libel case with the European Court of Human Rights

[The General]

Who knows or even cares ?
No doubt as long as someone is prepared to ask/pay for a quote, he's likely  to respond. And why not?

I've maintained this stance all along - it's the ching ching train. It's rumbling on as we speak. He's probably being asked for interviews right now - and he will provide the sweaty media their soundbites for a wee fee; carefully curated by his legal team, no doubt. It's nice work if you can get it.

[Vertigo Swirl]

This Ruling rather puts paid to me being of any use as a Moderator when it comes to Freedom of Speech.  A can of worms has just been opened.

I think anything goes now, say what you like about whom you like, who cares anyway.  Bruckner abducted Madeleine and murdered her and I don't care what anyone says or what evidence there is to the contrary - if I want to say it I shall. 

[G-Unit]

There was no active search of any kind except for that organised and funded by Madeleine McCanns parents.  Based on the content of Amaral's book you and many others have resisted severally and individually all and any investigation into Madeleine's abduction.

Your flawed opinions and Amaral's flawed opinions all based on flawed 'evidence' mean absolutely nothing now.

The McCanns have got what they wanted with the evidence based inquiry into a prime suspect in Madeleine's disappearance.  How sad are those why decry hoping there will be answers as a result.

Based on my assessment of the evidence I can see no reason to choose abduction as the only lead worthy of investigation. Unless and until definitive evidence is released, I will continue holding the same opinion as the Portuguese prosecutors;

"it was not possible to obtain any piece of evidence that would allow for a medium man, under the light of the criteria of logics, of normality and of the general rules of experience, to formulate any lucid, sensate, serious and honest conclusion about the circumstances under which the child was removed from the apartment"
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

[Eleanor]

Freedom of speech is the winner here today.
We're currently living in a country when you can't politely berate a royal nonce without being beaten to the ground and arrested.

Beware of what you might wish for.  Everything has just gone *Tits* up.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Based on my assessment of the evidence I can see no reason to choose abduction as the only lead worthy of investigation. Unless and until definitive evidence is released, I will continue holding the same opinion as the Portuguese prosecutors;

"it was not possible to obtain any piece of evidence that would allow for a medium man, under the light of the criteria of logics, of normality and of the general rules of experience, to formulate any lucid, sensate, serious and honest conclusion about the circumstances under which the child was removed from the apartment"
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

But that's so 2008.  It's a bit like a YEC citing Georges Cuvier who claimed there was no evidence for the theory of evolution.

[The General]

I think anything goes now, say what you like about whom you like, who cares anyway.  Bruckner abducted Madeleine and murdered her and I don't care what anyone says or what evidence there is to the contrary - if I want to say it I shall.

There's another device at work here, though; the forum rules. The forum owner is still at risk of being sued for your ill-advised comments.

[Eleanor]

Now you're getting the hang of it - freedom to call Amaral what you like without fear of legal action.
Well, not quite; you can say / type it, but it may be tested down the line in a civil court. How it should be. Hurrah for   Orwell.

I have never needed the Right to Free Speech.  But few would understand that sentiment.

[faithlilly]

Did he?  I don't know. Was he a pc when he wrote it or had he retired?  Did Stagg sue?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Murder-Common-Secret-Shocked-Library/dp/184454057X

[Eleanor]

I think anything goes now, say what you like about whom you like, who cares anyway.  Bruckner abducted Madeleine and murdered her and I don't care what anyone says or what evidence there is to the contrary - if I want to say it I shall.

Sadly, I still believe in The Presumption of Innocence, although God knows why.  I can only guess that it's a personal thing.

[Wonderfulspam]

Freedom of speech is the winner here today.
We're currently living in a country where you can't politely berate a royal nonce without being beaten to the ground and arrested.

No, I'm sorry, no one has proven Andrew slept with Miss Guffrie.
Just because he paid her tens of millions to settle out of court, doesn't mean he's guilty.

[barrier]

Did he?  I don't know. Was he a pc when he wrote it or had he retired?  Did Stagg sue?

Stagg received £700,000 in compensation.

[Eleanor]

But that's so 2008.  It's a bit like a YEC citing Georges Cuvier who claimed there was no evidence for the theory of evolution.

I know what I think of The Theory of Evolution, which is not a lot when it comes to the majority.

[Eleanor]

There's another device at work here, though; the forum rules. The forum owner is still at risk of being sued for your ill-advised comments.

Then John will have to decide, which is fine by me.  Just let me know what I am supposed to do.

[Brietta]

Based on my assessment of the evidence I can see no reason to choose abduction as the only lead worthy of investigation. Unless and until definitive evidence is released, I will continue holding the same opinion as the Portuguese prosecutors;

"it was not possible to obtain any piece of evidence that would allow for a medium man, under the light of the criteria of logics, of normality and of the general rules of experience, to formulate any lucid, sensate, serious and honest conclusion about the circumstances under which the child was removed from the apartment"
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LEGAL_SUMMARY.htm

If you wish to continue with the halcyon "Groundhog Day" of 2008 please consider yourself to be my guest.

For myself, I prefer to move with the times and by my watch we have now arrived at the year 2022 when after years of investigation the many inadequateness of the inconclusive Portuguese investigation have been addressed.

[G-Unit]

But that's so 2008.  It's a bit like a YEC citing Georges Cuvier who claimed there was no evidence for the theory of evolution.

In that case the evidence was provided. Not in this one as yet.