Madeleine McCann's parents lose libel case with the European Court of Human Rights

[jassi]

Right, that's enough gloating & goading for one day.
Let's get back to having a very serious & sensible discussion about Madeleine's abduction please.
I'll start.
Was she even abducted?

AW shucks and just when I was getting into the swing of it .

[faithlilly]

And meanwhile over on their Facebook page the parents are, as expected, peddling their brand of the truth. They claim that they started legal action 13 years ago because they were afraid that if people believed Amaral then they wouldn’t search for Madeleine. This isn’t strictly true. The original court action may have been justified by this excuse but not their application to the ECHR in 2017, at a time when OG and the Portuguese investigations had been running for 6 years and Amaral’s book was only ever really spoken about in relation to legal action brought about by the parents.

Whether it was to delay paying costs or simply to rehabilitate their reputations, one thing their application to the ECHR wasn’t about and that was the search for their daughter.

[Wonderfulspam]

And meanwhile over on their Facebook page the parents are, as expected, peddling their brand of the truth. They claim that they started legal action 13 years ago because they were afraid that if people believed Amaral then they wouldn’t search for Madeleine. This isn’t strictly true. The original court action may have been justified by this excuse but not their application to the ECHR in 2017, at a time when OG and the Portuguese investigations had been running for 6 years and Amaral’s book was only ever really spoken about in relation to legal action brought about by the parents.

Whether it was to delay paying costs or simply to rehabilitate their reputations, one thing their application to the ECHR wasn’t about and that was the search for their daughter.

I seem to remember Amaral saying, after a previous judgement, that if they really are looking for their
missing daughter, it is not in the Portuguese civil courts that they will find her.
She wasn't in the ECHR either.

[G-Unit]

Do you not understand that what he is saying now is libellous

Poppycock - imo.

[Mr Gray]

Poppycock - imo.

Are you able to offer an explanation as to why saying the mccanns are still suspects is not libelous..... Or like  all the other sceptics are you reduced to childish name calling y

[Angelo222]

Hello Gloaty McGloatface! 

    ...if ever there was a time it's right now.

[Wonderfulspam]

Are you able to offer an explanation as to why saying the mccanns are still suspects is not libelous..... Or like  all the other sceptics are you reduced to childish name calling y

Because they are still suspects?

[The General]

Do you not understand that what he is saying now is libellous

Give it 6 years and a couple of appeals and we could find out.

[Angelo222]

I seem to remember Amaral saying, after a previous judgement, that if they really are looking for their
missing daughter, it is not in the Portuguese civil courts that they will find her.
She wasn't in the ECHR either.

Going jogging was more important.

[Wonderfulspam]

Going jogging was more important.

...& the chat show circuit.

[Mr Gray]

This is from the judgement..

. Given the traces found in the car, the little girl had to be transported there.
(...)

The ECHR ruled that Amaral's opinion was based on facts... Absolute rubbish

[Wonderfulspam]

This is from the judgement..

. Given the traces found in the car, the little girl had to be transported there.
(...)

The ECHR ruled that Amaral's opinion was based on facts... Absolute rubbish

The second ruling noted, iirc, that where the author differed from the files was in his interpretation of said facts & the conclusions he reached from them.
Biological traces were found in the car, Amaral deduced from this that she may have been transported in there.
That's a fact.

[Vertigo Swirl]

This is from the judgement..

. Given the traces found in the car, the little girl had to be transported there.
(...)

The ECHR ruled that Amaral's opinion was based on facts... Absolute rubbish

Yes but as G-Unit has explained facts don’t need to be true… 

[Mr Gray]

Yes but as G-Unit has explained facts don’t need to be true… 

It seems gunit doesn't understand the meaning of the word veracity... Which is what the ECHR say is important

[Wonderfulspam]

Yes but as G-Unit has explained facts don’t need to be true… 

It's true biological traces were found in the boot, Eddie alerted to the car also.

From this, Amaral & his team deduced, reasonably, that Maddie may have been transported in there.

That's a fact.

Whether she really was or not is irrelevant to the legal ruling.