Madeleine McCann's parents lose libel case with the European Court of Human Rights

[Eleanor]

Those indisputable, court verified facts still haven't been adequately explained.
You can see why the PJ moved to place the pair as suspects.

That didn't go well.

[Brietta]

It clearly isn't a myth ,it's in the judgement handed down unanimously by no less than 7 judges.

One hates to be pedantic about these things but the judgement quoted the myth used by Amaral and his team to constitute arguidos.

Further investigation involving a proper understanding of the forensics revealed there was no foundation to the initial reasoning used.

I am sure the learned judges took all of that into account but my opinion is that they quoted the lie while ignoring the truth.

[Eleanor]

Does any of this actually matter.  Obviously not.

[Brietta]

How did it clear the mccs.....the forensic was inconclusive.

Inconclusive results indicate that DNA testing did not produce information that would allow an individual to be either included or excluded as the source of the biological evidence.

I wouldn't call that cleared.

One begins to appreciate the expertise which makes Amaral such an authority on the setting up of patsys.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Did any one pick this up from the judgement. One of the facts.

10. Biological traces and blood were detected by British police dogs inside the holiday apartment and in the boot of the car which the applicants had hired a few days after their daughter's disappearance (see paragraph 40 below). As a result, on 7 September 2007, the applicants were charged (constituted arguidos). They were suspected of having hidden their daughter's body after her death, possibly as a result of a domestic accident, in the apartment and of having faked an abduction. The applicants' indictment received unprecedented national and international media coverage.

Paragraph 40;

40. As to the facts, referring to the evidence submitted by the parties, the Lisbon Court found the following to be established:
" (...)
6. The British police dogs "Eddie" and "Keela" detected human blood and cadaver scent marks inside apartment 5-A of the Ocean Club.
7. The British police dogs "Eddie" and "Keela" detected human blood and cadaver scent marks inside the vehicle rented by the applicants (...) after Madeleine disappeared.

yes, it's one of those facts that aren't necessarily true facts - G-Unit explained it all the other day.

[Brietta]

Does any of this actually matter.  Obviously not.

The McCanns hit exactly the right note in reference to this.  There is still an active police investigation taking place regarding Madeleine and that is the fact that anyone actually interested in justice for her should be very happy about.

That is what matters.  And until such time as it is concluded one way or the other it will continue to matter.

[Eleanor]

Is any of this of any importance in the solving of this case?  No.

[Vertigo Swirl]

All the judges (Portuguese and ECHR) needed to decide was whether GA based his theory on facts which were recorded in the investigation files. They were.

quite, what apparently doesn't matter to the judges is whether or not the "facts" were true in the first place. 
This means that even if an ex-cop comes to a conclusion based on picking up the wrong end of the stick they are entitled to do so and write it up into a best selling book.   It's all perfectly clear now.

[Brietta]

Is any of this of any importance in the solving of this case?  No.

What gets me about it all is the smattering of malcontents who actually do not want Madeleine's case to be solved.

[Mr Gray]

What gets me about it all is the smattering of malcontents who actually do not want Madeleine's case to be solved.

to put it bluntly...its because they believe all the rubbish about the dogs. If Eddie was correct then the  McCanns are guilty and CB is innocent. My valued judgement based on sufficient facts show taht the alerts by Eddie were of no significance...which isnt far off what Harrison and Grime said

[Eleanor]

What gets me about it all is the smattering of malcontents who actually do not want Madeleine's case to be solved.

I thought it was more to do with getting The McCanns indicted.

This isn't going to happen.

[Brietta]

quite, what apparently doesn't matter to the judges is whether or not the "facts" were true in the first place. 
This means that even if an ex-cop comes to a conclusion based on picking up the wrong end of the stick they are entitled to do so and write it up into a best selling book.   It's all perfectly clear now.

Seven judges have concurred on that.  Now all we need to see is how much rope Amaral is going to need - could be interesting.

Tell me, what do you think the situation regarding the false Brueckner dreadlocks is now.

[G-Unit]

quite, what apparently doesn't matter to the judges is whether or not the "facts" were true in the first place. 
This means that even if an ex-cop comes to a conclusion based on picking up the wrong end of the stick they are entitled to do so and write it up into a best selling book.   It's all perfectly clear now.

GA was entitled to express his theory so long as it was based on the evidence in the files. It was. The question of whether that evidence was true or false was for the judges in any criminal trial to decide.

[faithlilly]

Is any of this of any importance in the solving of this case?  No.

Then why do you think that the parents took so much time, energy and money pursuing it?

[faithlilly]

to put it bluntly...its because they believe all the rubbish about the dogs. If Eddie was correct then the  McCanns are guilty and CB is innocent. My valued judgement based on sufficient facts show taht the alerts by Eddie were of no significance...which isnt far off what Harrison and Grime said

Unfortunately your judgement has proven to be sadly lacking.