Author Topic: Madeleine McCann's parents lose libel case with the European Court of Human Rights  (Read 45554 times)

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Offline The General


That's my point ......it wouldn't have been the best-selling book if it wasn't for the mccs going after GA.
Exactly. He used his right to reply......and how!
Another gubbing for the pair at the hands of the porky, sozzled, incompetent cop. I've lost count of the score.
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Offline Eleanor

I prefer to gloat rather than brag. So much more satisfying.  8(>((

Oh dear.  You poor soul.

Offline Brietta

It was designed to almost guarantee that the real perpetrator(s) would never be sought, let alone caught. I don't believe GA ever thought the McCanns would be so tenacious in the face of such adversity or that UK police would have launched such a thorough review of the case.
GA should never have written the book. Period. Its contents and his public slurs of them warranted legal action.
Now he has formally been allowed to profit from such slurs - maybe that will actually work against him in the future.
IMO the McCanns have chosen not to appeal because of potential action against Brueckner by BKA within the next few weeks. We have been told that Amaral's actions were never about the money. I wonder how the Portuguese public will view his reputation/honour in the event of Brueckner being convicted of previously unsolved serious crimes which fell under his jurisdiction? Had Brueckner been caught then maybe Madeleine wouldn't have been abducted.

It depends on the case I think.

For example there was no distraction when many years after the rape of the American woman in Prai da Luz justice was served.

At that time there was no association with Madeleine's case.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl


That's my point ......it wouldn't have been the best-selling book if it wasn't for the mccs going after GA.
The book had already sold thousands of copies before any legal action was taken, what do you mean?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline The General

It was designed to almost guarantee that the real perpetrator(s) would never be sought, let alone caught. I don't believe GA ever thought the McCanns would be so tenacious in the face of such adversity or that UK police would have launched such a thorough review of the case.
GA should never have written the book. Period. Its contents and his public slurs of them warranted legal action.
Now he has formally been allowed to profit from such slurs - maybe that will actually work against him in the future.
IMO the McCanns have chosen not to appeal because of potential action against Brueckner by BKA within the next few weeks. We have been told that Amaral's actions were never about the money. I wonder how the Portuguese public will view his reputation/honour in the event of Brueckner being convicted of previously unsolved serious crimes which fell under his jurisdiction? Had Brueckner been caught then maybe Madeleine wouldn't have been abducted.
An entire wall of text dedicated to whingeing. Everybody else's fault. If only he hadn't written the book, if only GA  had caught CB for other crimes. How about if only they didn't leave their 3 nursery age kids alone to out out on the pop? No? Thought not.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

At least you're big enough to admit that.
I have never claimed to be able to predict the future nor to be an expert on anything, simply offering my humble opinions which you can either take or leave as you wish. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Amaral was damaging that.

But he wasn't was he.


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97. Finally, the Court notes that, after the publication of the book, the applicants continued their media activities. In particular, they made a documentary about their daughter's disappearance and continued to give interviews to the media at international level (see paragraph 40 (paragraphs 68 and 71) above). While the Court understands that the publication of the book undoubtedly caused the applicants anger, anxiety and concern (see paragraph 40 (paragraph 81) above), it does not appear that the book or the broadcasting of the documentary had any serious impact on their social relations or on their continuing legitimate search for their daughter.

OK, so everyone in Portugal never ceased in their efforts to find Madeleine firmly discarding the innefective opinions he and his associates were spouting from every chat show sofa in the land at every chance they could.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline The General

OK, so everyone in Portugal never ceased in their efforts to find Madeleine firmly discarding the innefective opinions he and his associates were spouting from every chat show sofa in the land at every chance they could.
No.
Unless you can show otherwise.
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Offline jassi

OK, so everyone in Portugal never ceased in their efforts to find Madeleine firmly discarding the innefective opinions he and his associates were spouting from every chat show sofa in the land at every chance they could.

Why should the people of Portugal, or anywhere else for that matter spend time looking for Madeliene ? They didn't lose her.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline misty

An entire wall of text dedicated to whingeing. Everybody else's fault. If only he hadn't written the book, if only GA  had caught CB for other crimes. How about if only they didn't leave their 3 nursery age kids alone to out out on the pop? No? Thought not.

It's a sequence of systemic failures, not an isolated incident. The police are responsible for removing those who've committed crime from the streets so children can sleep more safely in their homes/holiday apartments, amongst other things.  Shame on you for victim-blaming.

Offline Eleanor

I have never claimed to be able to predict the future nor to be an expert on anything, simply offering my humble opinions which you can either take or leave as you wish.

As I have said, this ruling is no longer of any importance.

The decision of The ECHR is somewhat of worry to me but I can't be bothered getting into the legal conclusion since it isn't going to affect the Case in Germany, or anywhere else.

The McCanns are never going to be arrested, although Madeleine might never be found alive or dead.

Offline misty

Why should the people of Portugal, or anywhere else for that matter spend time looking for Madeliene ? They didn't lose her.

Why was it so important for Amaral & his cronies to speak about the case in the media at every given opportunity if her disappearance was unimportant?

Offline Eleanor

OK, so everyone in Portugal never ceased in their efforts to find Madeleine firmly discarding the innefective opinions he and his associates were spouting from every chat show sofa in the land at every chance they could.

A very large part of The Portuguese population were too afraid to protest.  Although a few brave souls did.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

It's a sequence of systemic failures, not an isolated incident. The police are responsible for removing those who've committed crime from the streets so children can sleep more safely in their homes/holiday apartments, amongst other things.  Shame on you for victim-blaming.
Exactly.  Child molesters and abductors and murderers can usually only commit their crimes because of a certain degree of laxity on the part of the children's parents (except of course where the child's parents are complicit).  So, are we to condemn those children to their fate at the hands of such abusers simply because we disapprove of their parents' laxity and only charge the parents not those perpetrating the crimes?  I genuinely believe that there are some people here who would be OK with that. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline The General

A very large part of The Portuguese population were too afraid to protest.  Although a few brave souls did.
Are we talking about Salazar? I know you're 'more senior' but that's a stretch.
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