Author Topic: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?  (Read 41907 times)

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Offline Brietta

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #240 on: February 19, 2023, 06:01:35 PM »
Had the arguido status been requested after the law changed then the decision would have been made by a judge. What that judge's decision would have been no-one knows. I don't suppose s/he would have taken into account other's opinions. The decision would have been based on the law, not opinions.

"The decision would have been based on the law, not opinions."

Which is precisely what I have been endeavouring to impress upon you to no avail (complete with links and cites) for how many years is it now.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #241 on: February 19, 2023, 06:25:14 PM »
Like Brueckner you mean?

A very strange one that by all accounts.

The hypothesis featuring the McCanns with absolutely nothing going for it obviously took precedence over legitimate investigation of a man the theorist in chief Amaral, admits to knowing at the time was a paedophile who slipped through the net.

That was some opinion!

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The former inspector of the JUDICIARY also says that Brueckner was actually on a "list of pedophiles who lived in the region" at the time of the crimes. "The agents knocked on the door but he wasn't home," Goncalo Amaral
https://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=11381.msg700323#msg700323
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #242 on: February 19, 2023, 06:26:29 PM »
"The decision would have been based on the law, not opinions."

Which is precisely what I have been endeavouring to impress upon you to no avail (complete with links and cites) for how many years is it now.

Pardon? I'm not the one whose cites are plucked mainly from the press.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #243 on: February 19, 2023, 06:42:10 PM »
Had the arguido status been requested after the law changed then the decision would have been made by a judge. What that judge's decision would have been no-one knows. I don't suppose s/he would have taken into account other's opinions. The decision would have been based on the law, not opinions.
The decision would have been based on the strength of the evidence or otherwise.  There would have needed to be good grounds for making them arguidos (which two professionals commenting on the case felt that there would have been insufficient evidence for such a move).
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #244 on: February 19, 2023, 07:16:42 PM »
The decision would have been based on the strength of the evidence or otherwise.  There would have needed to be good grounds for making them arguidos (which two professionals commenting on the case felt that there would have been insufficient evidence for such a move).

Of course there was insufficient evidence.  But not in the case of Brueckner, apparently.

Offline VIXTE

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #245 on: February 19, 2023, 07:28:38 PM »

https://instagram.com/iammadeleinemccan?igshid=MDM4ZDc5MmU=

Have you seen this information, the girl is claiming she might be Madeleine and Kate and Gerry have agreed to do a DNA test. Same time her family has disowned her, they did not want provide the birth certificate nor the photos she requested from them.

Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #246 on: February 19, 2023, 07:30:56 PM »
The decision would have been based on the strength of the evidence or otherwise.  There would have needed to be good grounds for making them arguidos (which two professionals commenting on the case felt that there would have been insufficient evidence for such a move).

In December 2007, when the two professionals commented, they were unlikely to have had the knowledge which the PJ had.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #247 on: February 19, 2023, 09:05:22 PM »
In December 2007, when the two professionals commented, they were unlikely to have had the knowledge which the PJ had.
what evidence did the PJ have that would not have been known to the McCanns lawyer and the Attorney General of Portugal in December 2007?  He AG’s comments came in 2012 btw.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #248 on: February 19, 2023, 09:08:08 PM »
In December 2007, when the two professionals commented, they were unlikely to have had the knowledge which the PJ had.

Is that a fact....or merely your opinion

Offline Mr Gray

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #249 on: February 19, 2023, 09:14:41 PM »
In December 2007, when the two professionals commented, they were unlikely to have had the knowledge which the PJ had.

Why do you think this is  relevant when its likely taht CB wil be convicted of murdering Maddie this year.

Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #250 on: February 19, 2023, 09:32:46 PM »
what evidence did the PJ have that would not have been known to the McCanns lawyer and the Attorney General of Portugal in December 2007?  He AG’s comments came in 2012 btw.

Not according to the Mail;

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-500111/Portuguese-police-rushed-make-McCanns-suspects-avoid-new-law.html
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Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #251 on: February 19, 2023, 09:42:07 PM »
Why do you think this is  relevant when its likely taht CB wil be convicted of murdering Maddie this year.

Is that new news? I have learned that the claim that evidence has been required to create an arguido since September 2007 isn't recording in the current information available and wasn't reported at the time. It seems to have been an opinion expressed by the McCann's defense lawyer.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #252 on: February 19, 2023, 10:01:15 PM »
Not according to the Mail;

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-500111/Portuguese-police-rushed-make-McCanns-suspects-avoid-new-law.html

Does this mean that The PJ have Firm Evidence against Brueckner?  And what could it be?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #253 on: February 19, 2023, 10:07:28 PM »
Is that new news? I have learned that the claim that evidence has been required to create an arguido since September 2007 isn't recording in the current information available and wasn't reported at the time. It seems to have been an opinion expressed by the McCann's defense lawyer.

Since what date in September


Offline Vertigo Swirl

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