Author Topic: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?  (Read 41906 times)

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Offline Eleanor

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #330 on: February 26, 2023, 08:19:42 PM »

If The McCanns were ever going to be arrested and charged it would have happened before the law was changed.  It didn't happen then and hasn't happened since.  So whatever the law was then and later is of no importance.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #331 on: February 26, 2023, 08:35:26 PM »
You obviously think there's a difference. Please explain using cites to uphold your argument.
Why on earth should I answer your question when you refuse to answer mine?  You answer, then ask.  Then I answer, that’s how it works.  Give it a go, I dare you!
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #332 on: February 26, 2023, 08:36:31 PM »
so are you saying that the Attorney General of Portugal was wrong then and simply didn’t understand his own country’s laws?
Let’s have an answer to this one for a start.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #333 on: February 26, 2023, 09:15:09 PM »
If The McCanns were ever going to be arrested and charged it would have happened before the law was changed.  It didn't happen then and hasn't happened since.  So whatever the law was then and later is of no importance.

Nevertheless the change in the law is regularly mentioned and the word evidence crops up each time. Only one Portuguese legal person used that word, imo; the one in the McCann's employ.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #334 on: February 26, 2023, 09:21:59 PM »
Nevertheless the change in the law is regularly mentioned and the word evidence crops up each time. Only one Portuguese legal person used that word, imo; the one in the McCann's employ.

Which is of no importance.

Incidentally, even if The McCanns were in some way involved they will never be arrested or charged because a fair trial would be impossible, mainly due to people like you persistently spreading utter garbage.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #335 on: February 26, 2023, 10:06:49 PM »
Nevertheless the change in the law is regularly mentioned and the word evidence crops up each time. Only one Portuguese legal person used that word, imo; the one in the McCann's employ.
it’s impossible to have justified suspicions without evidence, unless you can explain how?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #336 on: February 26, 2023, 11:54:19 PM »

Having puzzled about the stupidity of it all the penny has finally dropped.  I actually thought I was witnessing a member in the process of suffering a brainstorm.  Instead the forum is being played by a WUM who isn't Spam.

Another part of the learning curve falls into place.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #337 on: February 27, 2023, 07:35:54 AM »
Having puzzled about the stupidity of it all the penny has finally dropped.  I actually thought I was witnessing a member in the process of suffering a brainstorm.  Instead the forum is being played by a WUM who isn't Spam.

Another part of the learning curve falls into place.

Sticks and stones.....

How about posting facts instead of opinions posted as facts? The only difference I can find introduced by the change in the law in 2007 is that the PJ must apply to a judge for permission to declare someone an arguido. The PJ and the prosecutor thought they had good reason to make the McCanns arguidos and no-one knows what a judge would have decided. In my opinion, given the information they had at the time, I think a judge would have ratified the decision. There wasn't no evidence, there was insufficient to charge them. (The attorney general DID say that btw)
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #338 on: February 27, 2023, 08:22:16 AM »
Sticks and stones.....

How about posting facts instead of opinions posted as facts? The only difference I can find introduced by the change in the law in 2007 is that the PJ must apply to a judge for permission to declare someone an arguido. The PJ and the prosecutor thought they had good reason to make the McCanns arguidos and no-one knows what a judge would have decided. In my opinion, given the information they had at the time, I think a judge would have ratified the decision. There wasn't no evidence, there was insufficient to charge them. (The attorney general DID say that btw)
Why are you continuing to ignore the one thing that the AG said which entirely contradicts you?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #339 on: February 27, 2023, 09:29:31 AM »
Why are you continuing to ignore the one thing that the AG said which entirely contradicts you?

Instead of asking questions just say what you mean.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #340 on: February 27, 2023, 09:50:54 AM »
Instead of asking questions just say what you mean.
I've said it umpteen times and you keep ignoring it.  I'm beginning to think Brietta was spot on.  You are IMO simply on the wind up, both on this thread and the other active thread atm. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #341 on: February 27, 2023, 10:40:58 AM »

I think that this Forum has been invaded.  But that is only my opinion.

Offline Brietta

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #342 on: February 27, 2023, 10:43:20 AM »
Sticks and stones.....

How about posting facts instead of opinions posted as facts? The only difference I can find introduced by the change in the law in 2007 is that the PJ must apply to a judge for permission to declare someone an arguido. The PJ and the prosecutor thought they had good reason to make the McCanns arguidos and no-one knows what a judge would have decided. In my opinion, given the information they had at the time, I think a judge would have ratified the decision. There wasn't no evidence, there was insufficient to charge them. (The attorney general DID say that btw)

It took a wee while for me to work it out.  Seriously, I was concerned for you because I actually thought I was witnessing an on-line meltdown based on the pointless insanity of some of the assertions you have been posting on the threads.

There is a quaint honesty about the resident WUM who makes no bones about intent. Not that I suggest that applies to you.  But nonetheless I have to admit you have broken the credulity barrier at least as far as I am concerned ~ making it impossible to  take your posts seriously.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #343 on: February 27, 2023, 10:54:13 AM »
I think that this Forum has been invaded.  But that is only my opinion.
I think we are learning a lot as well as having a lot of long standing prejudices verified.

It was to be expected though given that the years of investment in McCann hostility has come to nothing.  I think there is a bit of floundering going on.
It started with Brueckner being outed by Amaral with his attempted spin.  And whatever the eventual outcome for Brueckner, they will not stop there.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #344 on: February 27, 2023, 10:56:27 AM »
I've said it umpteen times and you keep ignoring it.  I'm beginning to think Brietta was spot on.  You are IMO simply on the wind up, both on this thread and the other active thread atm.

You've said a lot of things. Which one in  particular are you referring to?

Some of you may get wound up by my posts, but that's not my intention. I could accuse you of deliberately winding me up by asking incessant questions, but I know it's up to me how I react, not you. Keep calm and carry on is what I do.
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