Author Topic: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?  (Read 41876 times)

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #405 on: March 01, 2023, 09:27:00 PM »
Opinion.


as are your claims...so noyhing proven

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #406 on: March 01, 2023, 09:32:32 PM »
Opinion.
it is your opinion that a changed statement is relevant when it’s Gerry but irrelevant when it’s Murat.  That’s inconsistent of you isn’t it.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #407 on: March 02, 2023, 07:25:01 AM »
it is your opinion that a changed statement is relevant when it’s Gerry but irrelevant when it’s Murat.  That’s inconsistent of you isn’t it.

Fancy you accepting and quoting opinions from CMOMM! I'd check the veracity if I were you.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #408 on: March 02, 2023, 07:29:58 AM »
Fancy you accepting and quoting opinions from CMOMM! I'd check the veracity if I were you.
If you read my post again you will see that I don’t accept the opinions of your friends at CMOMM that Murat was lying but undoubtedly there ARE changes in his recollections, as many if not far more than in Gerry’s.  You’re happy to ignore those though.  Why?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #409 on: March 02, 2023, 09:52:11 AM »
If you read my post again you will see that I don’t accept the opinions of your friends at CMOMM that Murat was lying but undoubtedly there ARE changes in his recollections, as many if not far more than in Gerry’s.  You’re happy to ignore those though.  Why?

One person who should have had his movements at the forefront of his mind was Gerry MCann. If, as he maintained, his daughter was abducted it was vital that the information he gave to the police was correct.

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #410 on: March 02, 2023, 10:14:15 AM »
One person who should have had his movements at the forefront of his mind was Gerry MCann. If, as he maintained, his daughter was abducted it was vital that the information he gave to the police was correct.

I would say the info Gerry gave was correct but taken down wrongly by the interpreter. we know Kate says in he rbook she had to correct the interpretr who became quiyt angry. In his arguido staement Gerry says he confirms everything he said in his previous two statements....the police raised no objections.

its a dogs dinner really and nothing can be proved either way

Offline Brietta

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #411 on: March 02, 2023, 10:19:09 AM »
One person who should have had his movements at the forefront of his mind was Gerry MCann. If, as he maintained, his daughter was abducted it was vital that the information he gave to the police was correct.

It is apparent that you have learned nothing now that we have reached 2023 ~ any more than you did in 2007.

Humans learn by their mistakes - you know the thing - fire=hot and big furry animals with teeth and claws=wants to eat you.  Safe to say that makes the fact your opinions have not altered one iota over that period of time puts your particular brand of human in danger of extinction.  Looking around me the evidence is that you are part of a dying breed which has learned nothing from experience.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #412 on: March 02, 2023, 10:39:21 AM »
It is apparent that you have learned nothing now that we have reached 2023 ~ any more than you did in 2007.

Humans learn by their mistakes - you know the thing - fire=hot and big furry animals with teeth and claws=wants to eat you.  Safe to say that makes the fact your opinions have not altered one iota over that period of time puts your particular brand of human in danger of extinction.  Looking around me the evidence is that you are part of a dying breed which has learned nothing from experience.

Sadly, this dying breed has been at it since The Village Pump.  Some poor souls are born like it.  But at least they don't get to hang anyone anymore.  Or send them to prison, as on this occasion they are still trying to do after sixteen years and no evidence.

Offline Brietta

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #413 on: March 02, 2023, 10:41:02 AM »
I would say the info Gerry gave was correct but taken down wrongly by the interpreter. we know Kate says in he rbook she had to correct the interpretr who became quiyt angry. In his arguido staement Gerry says he confirms everything he said in his previous two statements....the police raised no objections.

its a dogs dinner really and nothing can be proved either way

Revisit to groundhog day animosity 🙄

You are right - "it's a dog's dinner"!   Which the inability of those who have been chewing it up, regurgitating it then gobbling it all up again to continue the spewing cycle reigns supreme.  All simply because of a bad dose of denial they are incapable of learning from the first hand experience and expertise of investigators.

Learn something!!!  I think they would sooner prefer to pluck their eyes out before doing that,
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #414 on: March 02, 2023, 10:47:27 AM »
I would say the info Gerry gave was correct but taken down wrongly by the interpreter. we know Kate says in he rbook she had to correct the interpretr who became quiyt angry. In his arguido staement Gerry says he confirms everything he said in his previous two statements....the police raised no objections.

its a dogs dinner really and nothing can be proved either way

That's your opinion, which I don't share.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #415 on: March 02, 2023, 10:50:38 AM »
It is apparent that you have learned nothing now that we have reached 2023 ~ any more than you did in 2007.

Humans learn by their mistakes - you know the thing - fire=hot and big furry animals with teeth and claws=wants to eat you.  Safe to say that makes the fact your opinions have not altered one iota over that period of time puts your particular brand of human in danger of extinction.  Looking around me the evidence is that you are part of a dying breed which has learned nothing from experience.

Thank you for your opinions, which, of course add nothing to the debate. Do you have an excuse to offer for Gerry McCann's changed stories?
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Offline Brietta

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #416 on: March 02, 2023, 10:58:41 AM »
Sadly, this dying breed has been at it since The Village Pump.  Some poor souls are born like it.  But at least they don't get to hang anyone anymore.  Or send them to prison, as on this occasion they are still trying to do after sixteen years and no evidence.

I can only suffer a very, very quick glance at one of the leading "research instruments" last evening and could hardly believe the malice still swirling within.

The stupidity is unbelievable: sixteen years without a break and without noticing (except to protest 'innocence' on his behalf) that there is actually a prime suspect on the books who never had evidence against him checked out at the time.

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Madeleine police scour thousands of telephone records, 04 October 2013
Thousands of tourists who were in Praia da Luz in May 2007, when the three-year-old disappeared from her holiday apartment, were warned yesterday to expect a phone call from detectives.

For the first time, a vast log of mobile phone traffic, relating to activity in the resort at the time of Madeleine's disappearance, is being examined.

It comes as Kate and Gerry McCann prepare for a television appeal in light of "fresh, substantive" material that has emerged in Scotland Yard's new criminal investigation. A new theory in the case is expected to be outlined when the couple appear alongside detectives on an episode of the BBC's Crimewatch programme on Monday, October 14.

Mark Rowley, Assistant Commissioner at the Met, said: "It's substantially different. This is not a bland 'come and help us' appeal. There is different material and a different understanding to be presented."
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id458.htm
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #417 on: March 02, 2023, 11:25:30 AM »
I can only suffer a very, very quick glance at one of the leading "research instruments" last evening and could hardly believe the malice still swirling within.

The stupidity is unbelievable: sixteen years without a break and without noticing (except to protest 'innocence' on his behalf) that there is actually a prime suspect on the books who never had evidence against him checked out at the time.

Snip
Madeleine police scour thousands of telephone records, 04 October 2013
Thousands of tourists who were in Praia da Luz in May 2007, when the three-year-old disappeared from her holiday apartment, were warned yesterday to expect a phone call from detectives.

For the first time, a vast log of mobile phone traffic, relating to activity in the resort at the time of Madeleine's disappearance, is being examined.

It comes as Kate and Gerry McCann prepare for a television appeal in light of "fresh, substantive" material that has emerged in Scotland Yard's new criminal investigation. A new theory in the case is expected to be outlined when the couple appear alongside detectives on an episode of the BBC's Crimewatch programme on Monday, October 14.

Mark Rowley, Assistant Commissioner at the Met, said: "It's substantially different. This is not a bland 'come and help us' appeal. There is different material and a different understanding to be presented."
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id458.htm

Ah yes, when Redwood cleared the Tanner sighting out of the way and focused attention on the Smith sighting, where the child was actually seen and matched the missing child's description.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #418 on: March 02, 2023, 11:25:55 AM »
I can only suffer a very, very quick glance at one of the leading "research instruments" last evening and could hardly believe the malice still swirling within.

The stupidity is unbelievable: sixteen years without a break and without noticing (except to protest 'innocence' on his behalf) that there is actually a prime suspect on the books who never had evidence against him checked out at the time.

Snip
Madeleine police scour thousands of telephone records, 04 October 2013
Thousands of tourists who were in Praia da Luz in May 2007, when the three-year-old disappeared from her holiday apartment, were warned yesterday to expect a phone call from detectives.

For the first time, a vast log of mobile phone traffic, relating to activity in the resort at the time of Madeleine's disappearance, is being examined.

It comes as Kate and Gerry McCann prepare for a television appeal in light of "fresh, substantive" material that has emerged in Scotland Yard's new criminal investigation. A new theory in the case is expected to be outlined when the couple appear alongside detectives on an episode of the BBC's Crimewatch programme on Monday, October 14.

Mark Rowley, Assistant Commissioner at the Met, said: "It's substantially different. This is not a bland 'come and help us' appeal. There is different material and a different understanding to be presented."
https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id458.htm

Evidence of what though?  Evidence that he owned & used a phone? Well that's not much use really is it. No wonder he isn't being charged.
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Offline Brietta

Re: As we approach 2023, have we learned anything new?
« Reply #419 on: March 02, 2023, 11:28:56 AM »
Thank you for your opinions, which, of course add nothing to the debate. Do you have an excuse to offer for Gerry McCann's changed stories?

You said, "Thank you for your opinions, which, of course add nothing to the debate."  Let me know when you post something worth debating and not based on the errors of the past.
You exhibit your lack of knowledge in the way in which you persist in resurrecting shibboleths.  Most likely as a result of your thought processes passing by what was actually going on over the past sixteen years.

Don't tell me you missed out on the following ~

Didn't the Policia Judiciaria investigators have something to say about witnesses as recorded in the reports they completed and attached to the information they passed on to their legal bosses.

Didn't these legal bosses make a ruling which resulted in the following
  • Madeleine's case was archived
  • The status of arguido was lifted from Murat and McCanns

Do please keep up - that happened in 2008.
We are now in 2023 and by the admissions in your posts you seem to have drawn a blank on everything between then and 2007 so you have really missed out on an awful lot of information.
I don't think living in the past is good except for use as a base.  Now and looking to the future is good and is to be recommended.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....