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Offline sadie

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #195 on: January 21, 2023, 01:48:24 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/oct/26/ukcrime.madeleinemccann

Why did my previous post come out as a blank page?   But in reality the webpage above with instructions to open the image up was there.

Someone on the forum doesn't want this page printed and showing to all.  Why?


Now it just needs a wizard to come along and show it on the previous post by me.  Why?  To wrong foot me and make me seem an idiot.   It has been done before.

Can anyone else get Briettas webpage picture to open up?

What is especially interesting is that Jane mentioned noticing something at the bottom of the pyjama trousers, and it turned out that there was something at the bottom of Madeleines trousers.

I believe that man was carrying Madeleine.  He was in the process of abducting her.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #196 on: January 21, 2023, 01:52:22 PM »
Who called him a loose cannon or a maverick? Who said he was going to be sacked? You're not exaggerating are you? One of the reasons Brueckner's lawyer is trying to get the trial moved away from Braunschweig is because he believes a fair trial isn't possible there, and has already submitted a written complaint about statements being made which prejudged the outcome. A reprimand could be issued, which could be used as the basis for an appeal if Brueckner was convicted.
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No I'm not exaggerating.  It seems some people have a short memory.  The General was ALWAYS going on about HCW being demoted to "traffic cop" for some stupid and illogical reason, Holly Goodhead complained that he was a maverick or loose cannon or words to that effect.  I'm pretty sure others appeared to be in agreement.   
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Myster

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #197 on: January 21, 2023, 02:07:57 PM »
Where is Holly these days?   Did she die off after John gave her a good pruning?
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #198 on: January 21, 2023, 02:11:23 PM »
Particularly for non-lawyers without a good grounding in German Law.

That's me for sure  8)--)). The Germans do, however, have to comply with the ECHR.

The ECHR has established that the presumption of innocence protected under Article 6(2) ECHR will be
violated if a judicial decision or a statement by a public official concerning a person charged with
a criminal offence reflects an opinion that he is guilty before he has been proved guilty according
to law.

https://www.fairtrials.org/app/uploads/2022/01/Presumption-of-Innocence-Toolkit_2.pdf

I think Wolters is a public official and he did state his belief that CB is guilty of killing Madeleine McCann.
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Offline Myster

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #199 on: January 21, 2023, 02:15:06 PM »
Can anyone else get Briettas webpage picture to open up?

What is especially interesting is that Jane mentioned noticing something at the bottom of the pyjama trousers, and it turned out that there was something at the bottom of Madeleines trousers.

I believe that man was carrying Madeleine.  He was in the process of abducting her.
Yup, everybody can open up that webpage picture... except you!  I wonder why that is?
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Anthro

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #200 on: January 21, 2023, 02:24:18 PM »
That name rings a bell from earlier in the investigation. Quite possibly Wolters was just the spokesman, and boy did he speak!
The BKA headquarters is in Wiesbaden. They also have branches in Berlin and Meckenheim. HCW is the public prosecutor in Braunschweig. Ute Lindemann is the chief prosecutor, presumably at the headquarters in Wiesbaden. And ranked higher than Hans Wolters.

Offline sadie

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #201 on: January 21, 2023, 02:35:44 PM »
Yup, everybody can open up that webpage picture... except you!  I wonder why that is?

Oh, I can open it but I can't present the open image per the norm.  It refuses to be exhibited.  I wonder why I can't ?.  Please will you present the open image that Brietta mentioned.

I would like the image showing to demonstrate the detail at the bottom of the trousers that Jane mentioned.  This confirms that the little girl being carried was almost certainly Madeleine.




I have been missing you Ret and very worried about you.  Have been watching reports and do hope that any damage was minimal.  We had a similar problem (not as huge and catastrophic) and a neighbour very nearly died.   Personally with the old MC additional potential problems, I would cut my losses and start afresh.   But I know that you will make up your own mind.
Good to see you safe.
sadie x




Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #202 on: January 21, 2023, 02:48:57 PM »
Where is Holly these days?   Did she die off after John gave her a good pruning?
I think she's busy stalking Mrs Fenn's niece somewhere, hoping to amass enough evidence that she kidnapped Madeleine.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #203 on: January 21, 2023, 02:50:02 PM »
That's me for sure  8)--)). The Germans do, however, have to comply with the ECHR.

The ECHR has established that the presumption of innocence protected under Article 6(2) ECHR will be
violated if a judicial decision or a statement by a public official concerning a person charged with
a criminal offence reflects an opinion that he is guilty before he has been proved guilty according
to law.

https://www.fairtrials.org/app/uploads/2022/01/Presumption-of-Innocence-Toolkit_2.pdf

I think Wolters is a public official and he did state his belief that CB is guilty of killing Madeleine McCann.
If he has committed a serious breach of the law I wonder why he has not been sacked? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #204 on: January 21, 2023, 02:52:19 PM »
Yup, everybody can open up that webpage picture... except you!  I wonder why that is?
I don't know Myster but I attempted to start a new thread about technical difficulties I have experienced myself on this forum but it was ignored for some reason.  8(8-))
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Myster

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #205 on: January 21, 2023, 03:01:34 PM »
Oh, I can open it but I can't present the open image per the norm.  It refuses to be exhibited.  I wonder why I can't ?.  Please will you present the open image that Brietta mentioned.

I would like the image showing to demonstrate the detail at the bottom of the trousers that Jane mentioned.  This confirms that the little girl being carried was almost certainly Madeleine.




I have been missing you Ret and very worried about you.  Have been watching reports and do hope that any damage was minimal.  We had a similar problem (not as huge and catastrophic) and a neighbour very nearly died.   Personally with the old MC additional potential problems, I would cut my losses and start afresh.   But I know that you will make up your own mind.
God to see you safe.
sadie x

Can't log into Imgur hosting site because I forgot my password  8(8-)) , so the attached image will have to suffice for now.

No need to worry about me, Sadie!   Reports of what?... if you mean this freezing weather, the only problem I had was a burst cold water supply pipe in my garage and no fresh tap water for a few days.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #206 on: January 21, 2023, 03:08:41 PM »
Why are you so racist?

I can't follow your thought processes at all. What on earth makes you think I'm racist?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #207 on: January 21, 2023, 03:12:44 PM »
Oh, I can open it but I can't present the open image per the norm.  It refuses to be exhibited.  I wonder why I can't ?.  Please will you present the open image that Brietta mentioned.

I would like the image showing to demonstrate the detail at the bottom of the trousers that Jane mentioned.  This confirms that the little girl being carried was almost certainly Madeleine.




I have been missing you Ret and very worried about you.  Have been watching reports and do hope that any damage was minimal.  We had a similar problem (not as huge and catastrophic) and a neighbour very nearly died.   Personally with the old MC additional potential problems, I would cut my losses and start afresh.   But I know that you will make up your own mind.
Good to see you safe.
sadie x


As Jane said she saw something at the bottom of the trousers and as she knew what they looked like by the time she did the sketch it's hardly surprising they matched, is it?
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Offline sadie

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #208 on: January 21, 2023, 03:18:33 PM »
Can't log into Imgur hosting site because I forgot my password  8(8-)) , so the attached image will have to suffice for now.

No need to worry about me, Sadie!   Reports of what?... if you mean this freezing weather, the only problem I had was a burst cold water supply pipe in my garage and no fresh tap water for a few days.

Thank you for the image, but why won't it repeat so that others can use it?  It will vanish altogether in a few days at a guess.


So glad you are OK.   Am glad that you got the " burst water pipe " @)(++(* fixed.   Glad all are safe.   I have had the  " Burst water pipe "  @)(++(* experience 3 times now so in a small way I am a bit of an expert.  I know you are safe so I can stop watching the news now. 

Welcome back, Ret

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #209 on: January 21, 2023, 03:47:53 PM »
I can't follow your thought processes at all. What on earth makes you think I'm racist?

I'm intrigued now too, what the heck is sadie talking about?!  @)(++(*
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