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Offline sadie

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #240 on: January 23, 2023, 04:58:45 PM »
Totman stayed in Block 4, why would he go into Block 6?

Was there access to the rear car park behind Block 6 via the public areas, or do you think your 'watcher' was occupying one of the flats?


You are right Gunit.  According to *The Digital Labyrinth* which appears thoroughly researched and written by Kyal Shepard from Adelaide, South Australia ...
Dr. Totman’s apartment was G4M.. How come that so much time was wasted with us thinking that he stayed in block 6?   Reams have been written about The Totman Scenario using , it seems, misinformation.

https://somerandomstuff1.wordpress.com/tag/madeleine-mccann/        ( Thank you, Ret )


I have only read a little of this paper but I was impressed by a man who is thorough and appears to possess Lateral thinking as well as the more common Vertical thinking.


Scroll down about 60% of the report and there is a very comprehensive analysis of the Totman situation compared to waht Jane saw .   Like me, Kyal is convinced that Jane DID NOT see Dr Totman.   Jane saw Tannerman walk East.   Dr Totman would have been walking in a westerly direction, 
FGS, had it been Dr Totman, then Jane would have been closed following behid him for a fair distance in a westerly direction.   

Jane WITNESSED Tannerman abducting Madeleine.   This was in the couple of minutes or so after Gerry had finished his check and had been seen leaving the flat by the Watcher on the balcony of block 6.

Immediately after a children check:  ,,, The Optimum time for an abduction.

Thanks for your help Gunit.   Sometimes (very occasionally) you are a sweetie pie   ?{)(**

Offline Myster

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #241 on: January 23, 2023, 05:33:59 PM »
Why not give the link, Sadie?  Enough reading there to keep this place quiet for many a month...

https://somerandomstuff1.wordpress.com/2020/05/14/was-madeleine-mccann-really-abducted-the-internets-most-detailed-guide/

BTW, I hope Eleanor is OK?... not witnessed her usual daily presence here since last week.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline sadie

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #242 on: January 23, 2023, 06:21:20 PM »
I'm asking Sadie because her watcher and getaway driver theory can't work if the car park can't be reached through those gates.

Venezuela? Why is that of interest? There were thousands of reported sightings, many of them based on the flimsiest of reasons. All those reporting them were convinced they had seen Madeleine.

The Watcher area being linked via Block 6 building to the rear garden and gate?   
To me, it is common sense for economy of building costs and prime usage of land space, that there is only one flight of stairs for the multiple flats.   These stairs will have to connect both car park at the front and also the rear communal garden with its gate directly on to the public car park immediately behind.  These stairs appear to be at the front of the building so at least at ground level they will have a hallway/landing going through the building to a rear opening into the back garden.  The balconies come directly off these stairs.

For economy again, if I were designing them, I would give the stack of flats next door(to the east) access to the same stairs and way through to the rear garden and parking.

Gunit.  There has to be access for all flats to that rear gate and parking beyond.  Also route to Baptista supermarket, town and the sea.

Yes, there is a way through.  Think about it  You will agree

Offline sadie

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #243 on: January 23, 2023, 06:42:57 PM »
Why not give the link, Sadie?  Enough reading there to keep this place quiet for many a month...

https://somerandomstuff1.wordpress.com/2020/05/14/was-madeleine-mccann-really-abducted-the-internets-most-detailed-guide/

BTW, I hope Eleanor is OK?... not witnessed her usual daily presence here since last week.

I Pm'd Elli about 3 days ago asking if she was OK.  No responce, but I just see that it appears she logged in on the 20th.   That is strange because I have been checking her log ins every day, I think without missing any.

Do hope that Elli is OK.  Moon phases are against her, if I am understanding them correctly.   My police sargeant told me that crime rates increase with the moon phases.  It really does mess some people up.


Anyone know how she is?

Offline sadie

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #244 on: January 23, 2023, 06:49:39 PM »
Which gates are you talking about?

A bird's eye view of Block 6... rotate the view by pressing down your CTRL key simultaneously with the left mouse button, then move the mouse around to see if you can find any gate(s) to the southern car park (top of screen)...

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.0890523,-8.7308561,68a,35y,122.79h,31.41t/data=!3m1!1e3

Unless you've got a still photo of said gates to post instead?

If you go into GE Street scene, and follow the blue line until it is immediately behind Block 6, then look at the back garden wall, you will see the gate.  I think it probably serves two stacks of flats (on either side of the rear exit from the block)

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #245 on: January 23, 2023, 07:19:32 PM »

You are right Gunit.  According to *The Digital Labyrinth* which appears thoroughly researched and written by Kyal Shepard from Adelaide, South Australia ...
Dr. Totman’s apartment was G4M.. How come that so much time was wasted with us thinking that he stayed in block 6?   Reams have been written about The Totman Scenario using , it seems, misinformation.


I have only read a little of this papaer but I was impressed by a man who is thorough and appears to possess Lateral thinking as well as the more common Vertical thinking.

Scroll down about 60% of the report and there is a very comprehensive analysis of the Totman situation compared to waht Jane saw .   Like me, Kyal is convinced that Jane DID NOT see Dr Totman.   Jane saw Tannerman walk East.   Dr Totman would have been walking in a westerly direction, 
FGS, had it been Dr Totman, then Jane would have been closed following behid him for a fair distance in a westerly direction.   

Jane WITNESSED Tannerman abducting Madeleine.   This was in the couple of minutes or so after Gerry had finished his check and had been seen leaving the flat by the Watcher on the balcony of block 6.

Immediately after a children check:  ,,, The Optimum time for an abduction.

Thanks for your help Gunit.   Sometimes (very occasionally) you are a sweetie pie   ?{)(**

There's a very good body of information named the PJ Files. That's where I learned where peope stayed, rather than consulting some random blogger.

If everyone in Block 6 could use the back gates, nobody told Neil Berry. He managed to still be using the front entrance to the block after 6 days;

I was not in block 5, but had to pass by it in order to arrive at my apartment. It is possible that I was on the other side of the street opposite block five.
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NEIL_BERRY.htm

He would then enter Block 6 from it's car park at the front and use one of it's two sets of stairs to reach his apartment.
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Offline sadie

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #246 on: January 24, 2023, 12:39:48 AM »
There's a very good body of information named the PJ Files. That's where I learned where peope stayed, rather than consulting some random blogger.

If everyone in Block 6 could use the back gates, nobody told Neil Berry. He managed to still be using the front entrance to the block after 6 days;

I was not in block 5, but had to pass by it in order to arrive at my apartment. It is possible that I was on the other side of the street opposite block five.
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NEIL_BERRY.htm

He would then enter Block 6 from it's car park at the front and use one of it's two sets of stairs to reach his apartment.

That describes Block 6.  We always thought that his flat was the one furthest east in that block, so he would use the second set of stairs.  To go the front route, past 5A, would entail walking about 15 feet, or so, extra to walking the back route.   We always understood his flat to be the RH one of the two with the big semicircular balcony

Offline sadie

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #247 on: January 24, 2023, 01:10:43 AM »
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NEIL_BERRY.htm


Neil Berry
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... When we left with the meal we took the same walk back, along the pool, crossing the road back to the apartment. I think that our apartment was 4G.   
 

This route leads to Block 6, not block 4. 
                                                 BLOCK 6 is where he always used to be

Has this webpage been altered to give flat number 4G?


Today, Gunit guided, we have learned that Dr Julien Totman stayed in Block 4.   The new webpage that I quoted says in G4M.                                          BLOCK 6 is where he always used to be




So, seems Dr Totmans family shared apartment No. 4G with Neil Berrys family ?   I don't think so !
What’s going on here?   Both apartments used to be in BLOCK 6.    and now all of a sudden both apartments are in one flat,  4G.   ... RUBBISH !!!

The police need informing of this disinformation.  They are causing chaos and confusion.   This could affect Justice




The website that I mentioned earlier,
https://somerandomstuff1.wordpress.com/2020/05/14/was-madeleine-mccann-really-abducted-the-internets-most-detailed-guide/
now has a warning on it that it is not safe.  You will see a black triangle by the https on the top address line       

Unless, of course, it has been changed back overnight in an attempt to derail and discredit me [/b]  8)-)))

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #248 on: January 24, 2023, 07:07:46 AM »
That describes Block 6.  We always thought that his flat was the one furthest east in that block, so he would use the second set of stairs.  To go the front route, past 5A, would entail walking about 15 feet, or so, extra to walking the back route.   We always understood his flat to be the RH one of the two with the big semicircular balcony

Yes, you have identified Berry's apartment. There's no evidence at all that he could enter at the back of Block 6.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #249 on: January 24, 2023, 07:19:44 AM »
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NEIL_BERRY.htm


Neil Berry   

This route leads to Block 6, not block 4. 
                                                 BLOCK 6 is where he always used to be

Has this webpage been altered to give flat number 4G?


Today, Gunit guided, we have learned that Dr Julien Totman stayed in Block 4.   The new webpage that I quoted says in G4M.                                          BLOCK 6 is where he always used to be




So, seems Dr Totmans family shared apartment No. 4G with Neil Berrys family ?   I don't think so !
What’s going on here?   Both apartments used to be in BLOCK 6.    and now all of a sudden both apartments are in one flat,  4G.   ... RUBBISH !!!

The police need informing of this disinformation.  They are causing chaos and confusion.   This could affect Justice




The website that I mentioned earlier,
https://somerandomstuff1.wordpress.com/2020/05/14/was-madeleine-mccann-really-abducted-the-internets-most-detailed-guide/
now has a warning on it that it is not safe.  You will see a black triangle by the https on the top address line       

Unless, of course, it has been changed back overnight in an attempt to derail and discredit me [/b]  8)-)))

Berry misremembered, don't get excited. Berry stayed in 606 and Totman in G4M. Both entered their blocks from R Agostinho da Silva, crossing the car parks at the front to do so.
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Offline Myster

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #250 on: January 24, 2023, 08:05:43 AM »

The website that I mentioned earlier,
https://somerandomstuff1.wordpress.com/2020/05/14/was-madeleine-mccann-really-abducted-the-internets-most-detailed-guide/
now has a warning on it that it is not safe.  You will see a black triangle by the https on the top address line       

Unless, of course, it has been changed back overnight in an attempt to derail and discredit me   8)-)))
Ruth "Bash'em" Bashford in the comments section could be the malevolent gremlin responsible!

When I visit the site now using Firefox my default browser, the padlock with a black triangle and exclamation mark upon it appears, whereas it was fully secure yesterday.  It might be something to do with hundreds of the images on that site.  Scroll down for info on the black triangle here...

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mixed-content-blocking-firefox

Fx89Padlock-Triangle: A padlock with a triangle indicates that Firefox is not blocking insecure passive content, such as images. By default, Firefox does not block mixed passive content; you will simply see a warning that the page isn't fully secure. Attackers may be able to manipulate parts of the page like displaying misleading or inappropriate content, but they should not be able to steal your personal data from the site.

If I visit the site using Chrome or Opera it's secure (locked padlock only), so it might be something to do with the browser you're using.
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline G-Unit

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #251 on: January 24, 2023, 09:13:44 AM »
Here is the evidence from the PJ files of who stayed where. Berry was in 606, Curtis Brain in 607, and Nicola Cox (Balu's partner) was in 603.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #252 on: January 24, 2023, 09:16:38 AM »
Totman was in G4M
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Offline sadie

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #253 on: January 24, 2023, 04:57:12 PM »
Ruth "Bash'em" Bashford in the comments section could be the malevolent gremlin responsible!

When I visit the site now using Firefox my default browser, the padlock with a black triangle and exclamation mark upon it appears, whereas it was fully secure yesterday.  It might be something to do with hundreds of the images on that site.  Scroll down for info on the black triangle here...

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mixed-content-blocking-firefox

Fx89Padlock-Triangle: A padlock with a triangle indicates that Firefox is not blocking insecure passive content, such as images. By default, Firefox does not block mixed passive content; you will simply see a warning that the page isn't fully secure. Attackers may be able to manipulate parts of the page like displaying misleading or inappropriate content, but they should not be able to steal your personal data from the site.

If I visit the site using Chrome or Opera it's secure (locked padlock only), so it might be something to do with the browser you're using.


Fx89Padlock-Triangle: A padlock with a triangle indicates that Firefox is not blocking insecure passive content, such as images. By default, Firefox does not block mixed passive content; you will simply see a warning that the page isn't fully secure. Attackers may be able to manipulate parts of the page like displaying misleading or inappropriate content, but they should not be able to steal your personal data from the site.


I wonder why it is that the thread to do with Mccann finances * : Madeleine's Fund Accounts * has this image on it?

Fx89Padlock-Triangle:

Also every time Angelo posts (recently)  this image of a padlock with a black triangle comes up at the top of the webpage.     

SPOOKY!

Offline Anthro

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #254 on: January 24, 2023, 07:21:02 PM »
There's a very good body of information named the PJ Files. That's where I learned where peope stayed, rather than consulting some random blogger.

If everyone in Block 6 could use the back gates, nobody told Neil Berry. He managed to still be using the front entrance to the block after 6 days;

I was not in block 5, but had to pass by it in order to arrive at my apartment. It is possible that I was on the other side of the street opposite block five.
https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/NEIL_BERRY.htm


The back entrance to Block 6, meaning almost opposite the OC Tapas reception? I believe SIL posted pictures, amongst others, showing the small gates leading to Block 6 apartments, from the back (?)
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