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Offline G-Unit

Re: The Evidence Madeleine Was Taken In A Criminal Act By A Stranger.
« Reply #300 on: February 09, 2023, 01:38:21 PM »
Sadie's seeing a video which she thought may be Maddie is evidence...that's fact not opinion. After 15 years you still don't understand what evidence is...which doesn't say a lot for your opinions

It's Sadie's opinion, of no use whatsoever in a criminal investigation.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #301 on: February 09, 2023, 01:49:15 PM »
It's Sadie's opinion, of no use whatsoever in a criminal investigation.
Is Martin Smith's claim not an opinion then? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Eleanor

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« Reply #302 on: February 09, 2023, 01:49:38 PM »
It's Sadie's opinion, of no use whatsoever in a criminal investigation.

Or your opinion either.  Or mine for that matter.  So what are we all doing here?

It's actually the nastiness that I find difficult to cope with.

Offline Wonderfulspam

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« Reply #303 on: February 09, 2023, 01:52:27 PM »
Or your opinion either.  Or mine for that matter.  So what are we all doing here?

It's actually the nastiness that I find difficult to cope with.

Maybe stop being nasty then.
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Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #304 on: February 09, 2023, 02:13:31 PM »
Is Martin Smith's claim not an opinion then?

His opinion that the man he saw could have been Gerry McCann? Just like Sadie's opinion that she saw a video of Madeleine McCann it would need to be proved.
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Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #305 on: February 09, 2023, 03:08:51 PM »
It's Sadie's opinion, of no use whatsoever in a criminal investigation.

Both Sadie's and Smith's were opinion..
Neither seem important to the investigation

Offline Brietta

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« Reply #306 on: February 09, 2023, 04:50:01 PM »
What I said shows that Sadie's 'evidence' isn't actually evidence.

You tie yourself up in oxymoron with every post.

Sadie's video is evidence.  It might prove relevant or it might prove irrelevant when checked.  But nonetheless it is evidence.

One wonders how many cases would ever be solved if witness reports of events are to be summarily ignored and derided instead of being evaluated.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #307 on: February 09, 2023, 05:48:55 PM »
His opinion that the man he saw could have been Gerry McCann? Just like Sadie's opinion that she saw a video of Madeleine McCann it would need to be proved.
Is it of any use to the investigation though?  You seem to be the arbiter so do tell…
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Offline Brietta

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« Reply #308 on: February 09, 2023, 06:23:43 PM »
His opinion that the man he saw could have been Gerry McCann? Just like Sadie's opinion that she saw a video of Madeleine McCann it would need to be proved.
The files give an almost mirrored rendition of the McCluskey and Smith mistaken identification. 

One wonders why two witness statements voicing almost identical opinions didn't provide slam dunk verification.

I've seen it alleged that the expert on scape goats was prevented from carrying on with his investigation.  Interesting thought, that one!
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline John

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« Reply #309 on: February 09, 2023, 10:49:30 PM »
It's Sadie's opinion, of no use whatsoever in a criminal investigation.

We won't mention the Rif Mountains in Morocco for obvious reasons   8(8-))
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
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Offline John

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« Reply #310 on: February 09, 2023, 10:52:19 PM »
Is Martin Smith's claim not an opinion then?

He made a genuine observation and went out of his way to report it to the PJ via the Irish Garda.

Unfortunately, he was vilified for doing the right thing.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Mr Gray

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« Reply #311 on: February 09, 2023, 10:56:38 PM »
He made a genuine observation and went out of his way to report it to the PJ via the Irish Garda.

Unfortunately, he was vilified for doing the right thing.


could you point out who has vilified him...he reported what he belived he saw.  the criticis is for those who see his statement as a fairly certain ID of Gerry...it isnt

Offline Vertigo Swirl

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« Reply #312 on: February 09, 2023, 11:04:24 PM »
He made a genuine observation and went out of his way to report it to the PJ via the Irish Garda.

Unfortunately, he was vilified for doing the right thing.
Who in this case hasn’t been vilified by one side or the other?!  Every single member of the Tapas group, the nannies, the police of every nationality, the reporters, the pastor, the McCanns family and backers Tasmin Sillence, her father, Mrs Fenn, her niece, need I go on? 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

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« Reply #313 on: February 09, 2023, 11:20:59 PM »
The files give an almost mirrored rendition of the McCluskey and Smith mistaken identification. 

One wonders why two witness statements voicing almost identical opinions didn't provide slam dunk verification.

I've seen it alleged that the expert on scape goats was prevented from carrying on with his investigation.  Interesting thought, that one!

As I recall the people McClusky saw were identified. Despite the woman speaking in Portuguese, Mr McClusky thought she could be Kate McCann too!
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Offline sadie

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« Reply #314 on: February 09, 2023, 11:39:00 PM »
Sadie's seeing a video which she thought may be Maddie is evidence...that's fact not opinion. After 15 years you still don't understand what evidence is...which doesn't say a lot for your opinions

Yep and it seems that SY thought a good deal of it because it was the only file actually featured on the Crimewatch special Madeleine edition.

And seems that they still have an interest there because even now, they are searching for a MISSING Madeleine, Not a dead Madeleine, like the German and the Portuguese police..  And did I recently read that the BKA are no longer searching solely for a dead Madeleine

Maybe, OG have shared my video and my reasonings (facts and logic) with them?   Is that the reason why their searching is no longer JUST for a dead Madeleine?

Also respected psychics such as Matt James believe her to still be alive.


BTW, Many Anthropologists study the phenomena of psychics and witchcraft /wizardry/ancient religions (particularly Eastern/ African /Egyptian /Scandiwegian-German / other Ancient religions) etc.at University as part of their degree course.   

Witchcraft /Wizardry largely disappeared in Europe in the late 1600's, when it had been rife for a couple of Centuries.   On the internet there are reports that it is rearing its ugly head again.

J K Rowling experienced sorcery and I have too, in recent months.   Very nasty.   The work of weak individuals who crave power IMO ...  Bullies.