Gerry and Jez chat while Jane walks by. Seconds later she spots Tannerman!

[icabodcrane]

No let's have the Mccann video first,  See where they placed Gerry and Jez.




Now I cant find it.  Can anyone pls?

More cheating?  Changing the playing field again from level to sloping.  One sided ?

Part of Amarals ACE?


Wipe all the info out that can help the Mccanns ... and flood the internet with disinformation  ... hope that i am wrong

Can anyone find it?  Purlease

A link to the McCann documentary/reconstruction is on this thread

We discussed the fact the McCann's private detective,  Dave Edgar,  felt who stood where was irrelevent  ...  and proceeded to do the reconstruction as Gerry  ( alone  ) recalled it  ...  remember ?     

[Redblossom]

Sadie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na4aBr5PTYY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[John]

I don't want to cross post between threads but it is very noticeable that the Ch4 documentary puts the Smiths in the wrong place according to what they told the PJ.    I mean if they can't even get that basic point right...? 

[John]

This is the closest I can get to it.   Jane Tanner states they were stood more or less like the picture, Gerry had his back to the wall and Jez was facing her as she approached.

[John]

Gerry however remembers it differently.  He says he was on the other side of the road talking up to the 6' Jez.

Jez however disputes this and corroborates Tanners recollection.

[Redblossom]

I don't want to cross post between threads but it is very noticeable that the Ch4 documentary puts the Smiths in the wrong place according to what they told the PJ.    I mean if they can't even get that basic point right...?

That is one example of the documentary not staying to factual detail. There are quite a few other examples, such as the child seen by Jane Tanner was depicted with blond hair when she said all she saw was the lower part of the child's legs. The clothing of the abductor was of a uniform colour in both depicted sightings, which is incorrect. The manner the child was carried when seen by Jane Tanner was different to the manner the Smiths saw, but they are depicted in the one (Jane Tanner) way.
 
Which for a reconstruction style dubbed film aimed at getting people to phone in with information  is odd, IMO. The voice over when introducing the Smiths said Jane Tanner may not have been the only one to see Madeleine being abducted that night. It is fair to say they were trying to make out the two sightings were of the same man and child and that that child was definitely Madeleine.

Edited for afterthought.

[John]

Makes you wonder, were they making a documentary or a Disney special?   

[Redblossom]

I couldn't possibly comment John ;)

[DCI]

I don't want to cross post between threads but it is very noticeable that the Ch4 documentary puts the Smiths in the wrong place according to what they told the PJ.    I mean if they can't even get that basic point right...?

That is one example of the documentary not staying to factual detail. There are quite a few other examples, such as the child seen by Jane Tanner was depicted with blond hair when she said all she saw was the lower part of the child's legs. The clothing of the abductor was of a uniform colour in both depicted sightings, which is incorrect. The manner the child was carried when seen by Jane Tanner was different to the manner the Smiths saw, but they are depicted in the one (Jane Tanner) way.
 
Which for a reconstruction style dubbed film aimed at getting people to phone in with information  is odd, IMO. The voice over when introducing the Smiths said Jane Tanner may not have been the only one to see Madeleine being abducted that night. It is fair to say they were trying to make out the two sightings were of the same man and child and that that child was definitely Madeleine.

Edited for afterthought.

@Redblossom
Where does Jane Tanner say the girl had blonde hair?
Martin Smith say's it, but can't find where Jane does. The girl was about 4,  she looked like my granddaughter, blonde hair, pale white skin, typically British.

[icabodcrane]

No let's have the Mccann video first,  See where they placed Gerry and Jez.




Now I cant find it.  Can anyone pls?

More cheating?  Changing the playing field again from level to sloping.  One sided ?

Part of Amarals ACE?


Wipe all the info out that can help the Mccanns ... and flood the internet with disinformation  ... hope that i am wrong

Can anyone find it?  Purlease

I don't think it is fair at all to suggest this thread has been disinformative

John has put great effort into bringing visual aids to demonstrate  all  witness statements,  including Gerry McCanns

[Redblossom]

DCI, I didn't say that Jane Tanner had said the child had blonde hair. I meant that in that documentary the child she saw was depicted by the producers as having blonde hair. If you fast forward it to between 3.15 and 3.40 you can see it.

[sadie]

John has done a brilliant job, but it is an anti propaganda film that he is showing.  He probably doesn't even know that because, I think he is not a hardebned anti or pro like us.  Do you have any objections to the pro side being put forward to balance the discussion

Cos i certainly dont want Amarals video up there giving a very different story to that of Jez Wilkins himself.  Let me remind you that Anmaral is a convicted Criminal.  Jez Wilkins was there ... do YOU prefer Amarals version to that of the person who was there?

John also very kindly posted this map.  DRAWN by Jez Wilkins himself.  Waht better can you get than that?



Jez is very clearly at, or extremely close to, the corner of the alleyway

[icabodcrane]

John has done a brilliant job, but it is an anti propaganda film that he is showing.  He probably doesn't even know that because, I think he is not a hardebned anti or pro like us.  Do you have any objections to the pro side being put forward to balance the discussion

Cos i certainly dont want Amarals video up there giving a very different story to that of Jez Wilkins himself.  Let me remind you that Anmaral is a convicted Criminal.  Jez Wilkins was there ... do YOU prefer Amarals version to that of the person who was there?

John also very kindly posted this map.  DRAWN by Jez Wilkins himself.  Waht better can you get than that?



Jez is very clearly at, or extremely close to, the corner of the alleyway

I am only concerned with accuracy

The witness statements are what is important here

Gerry McCann disagrees with both the other witnesses present at the time 

We have a choice to make here,  therefore  ...  who do we believe,  and why

[Redblossom]

It is not written in stone though is it? Sadie? This is Jane Tanner's map of locations.

Your constant carping on about Amaral being a convicted criminal does not help any discussion TBH. Are you suggesting he changed the position of the chat? By a metre or so? Why would he? What difference would it make? Maybe I misread your post.

Edited for afterthought.

[DCI]

DCI, I didn't say that Jane Tanner had said the child had blonde hair. I meant that in that documentary the child she saw was depicted by the producers as having blonde hair. If you fast forward it to between 3.15 and 3.40 you can see it.

Sorry, missed reading, depicted