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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #90 on: February 20, 2023, 06:59:09 PM »
Imagine the enduring hell for Nicola’s family if her body had never been found.  The forums and facebook pages devoted to her disappearance.  The endless posts pointing the finger at her partner, examing his every utterance, and facial tic and finding them all evidence of guilt, the years of grief tourism from amateur detectives  that St Michaels would have to put up, the so-called experts making their 3 part Channel 5 documentaries telling us what “really” happened to Nicola.  Oh how many  endless hours of enjoyment so many ghouls and armchair sleuths have now been denied because the truth is known.  They must be gutted.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly


Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #92 on: February 21, 2023, 08:01:36 AM »
Well I don’t often agree with Ms Philips but this time she’s bang on the money imo.

Blame social media for rise of trauma voyeurs
Melanie PhillipsFebruary 06 2023, 9.00pm
The Lancashire police came under sustained criticism for saying at an early stage that Bulley was probably in the river. They have now been vindicated in that professional judgment. A diving expert, Peter Faulding, had declared that Bulley was “categorically” not in that stretch of the river because if she was he would have found her. Now he himself has been targeted by accusations of incompetence, provoking him to protest that searching the reeds wasn’t part of his remit.

People are still leaping to apportion blame before all the facts are known. Questions remain, however, about other features of the police investigation, in particular their release of information about Bulley’s psychological state — a disclosure of personal matters that drew expressions of “concern” both from the prime minister and home secretary. We may now find out the answers to these questions. What is already clear, however, is that although the family criticised the media and members of the public but not the police — in a statement the police read out — the behaviour of too many other people has been shockingly stupid, arrogant and cruel.

People descended on the the village where Bulley lived, St Michael’s on Wyre, to conduct their own detective work. The police, who said this made their job “incredibly difficult”, had to issue a 48-hour dispersal order because so many ghouls and amateur sleuths were taking videos for social media. Some recorded themselves digging in woodland. Village residents were forced to hire a private security company to stop these trespassers trampling their gardens and breaking into their outbuildings.

Conspiracy theories swirled uncontrollably around the internet. A friend of Bulley’s told the BBC that “vile theories” about the family’s private life, including unfounded speculation about the involvement of her partner, Paul Ansell, were “incredibly hurtful”. Even after the body was found, baroque theories of “planted” evidence, “dumped” bodies and possible third-party involvement continued to surface.

This callous and self-regarding behaviour by members of the public is the product of social media. Some people believe that reading claims on the internet turns them into an instant expert. From a position of at best ignorance and at worst gullible belief in speculation, outright lies and other nonsense, they then think they know better than the professionals.

Even if the police can justifiably be criticised for their inept public presentation, the assumption by members of the public that they make better investigators combines arrogance with idiocy.

True, the body was found by two people out walking by the river. And the police certainly face questions about why they didn’t manage to discover it. But the two walkers found it by chance. And those who descended on the village seem to have been mainly motivated by narcissism, filming themselves to become famous for five minutes in the alternative universe of social media where the line between fact and fantasy is blurred.

“True crime” dramatisations on podcasts, mini-series and documentaries blur this line. In America, these have been credited with reopening cases or creating petitions for pardons signed by hundreds of thousands of people. In some cases, people have verbally attacked or harassed those they believe to be guilty, heedless of any errors or distortions in these presentations.

Internet content that exploits other people’s suffering has been termed “trauma voyeurism”. America’s National Sexual Violence Resource Centre has observed: “Trauma voyeurism exploits the suffering and vulnerability of a victim for the purpose of securing viewership — often by regarding a victim’s body, privacy, name, and pain as public domain, with zero consideration for its impact on that victim.”

The culture of voyeurism is perhaps the most corrosive element of both social media and reality TV, in which interactions with the real world and personal relationships with real people are replaced by vicarious experience. This provides an illusion of social participation without incurring any costs or other consequences. This in turn deadens empathy, the core of a compassionate and civilised human being. Empathy is the ability to account for another person’s feelings, emotions or experiences. Social media, by contrast, encourages self-absorption and self-aggrandisement. Through the safety of vicarious experience, people can boast, blame, humiliate or pass judgment on others.

In the case of Nicola Bulley, social media users exploited the agony of her family to big themselves up. “It’s almost as though social media idiocy and reality have become blurred,” said the leader of Wyre council, Michael Vincent. “There has to be an element of decency. We can’t allow social media to be a place where there is no morality.”

Alas, that is precisely what has happened. A family’s tragedy, which also raised issues of genuine concern about policing, has been turned into a sickening theatre of cruelty
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #93 on: February 25, 2023, 07:27:02 AM »
I bet he regrets opening his big mouth now

Nicola Bulley underwater search specialist taken off list of experts
February 22 2023, 9.45am
For two and a half days he and his team scanned a three-mile stretch of the river, between St Michael’s and Cartford Bridge, using a sonar device, which he described as “state of the art”.

“If Nicola was in that river I would have found her — I guarantee you that — and she’s not in that section of the river,” he said on February 8. On Sunday her body was found 0.9 miles downstream from St Michael’s. A full inquest is expected in June.

Faulding has hit out at “unfair criticism” of his approach and media appearances, and said it was “unfair for me to be the fall guy”. He said he was trying to help the Bulley family and was “just one man” compared with the vast police search resources.

Nicola Bulley was found dead in a river more than three weeks after she went missing
Nicola Bulley was found dead in a river more than three weeks after she went missing
PA
The NCA’s Expert Advisers Database (EAD), which is used to identify and source experts who can add value to law enforcement investigations, listed Faulding as a registered search expert. It covers a broad range of expertise in more than two dozen areas, from accountants, forensic artists and archaeology to entomology, psychiatrists, marine investigation and toxicology.

A spokesman for the NCA said: “The NCA does not employ, endorse or accredit experts on our adviser database. The database is subject to continual review and its purpose is to maintain a list of expertise UK law enforcement can draw upon when required.

“We proactively seek feedback from customers regarding experts’ performance and contribution.The monitoring of performance equally applies to individuals and organisations who become involved in investigations without NCA engagement.”

A review into what happened in the Bulley case is being carried out internally and SGI could be put back on the list depending on its findings. Faulding said: “I’m not allowed to comment on that under the rules of the NCA.”
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #94 on: February 25, 2023, 07:33:43 AM »
Having said even before he commenced his search that he felt certain she was not in the river and having been highly critical of the police search up until that point, one can’t help but feel that Faulding conducted his search with a large degree of bias already in place, and that it was in his interests to ensure his search team uncovered nothing.  Never unquestioningly believe a professional expert with a self-proclaimed “best in the world” search equipment or ability. Unconscious or conscious bias played its part here in his embarrassing failure IMO.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Myster

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #95 on: February 25, 2023, 07:52:16 AM »
As you posted VS, according to The Times, Peter Faulding's SGI group have been removed from the NCA's list of experts while a review is carried out...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11791411/Specialist-divers-failed-Nicola-Bulley-removed-National-Crime-Agency-expert-list.html

I originally thought that he was tasked with only searching the River Wyre from the weir upstream to Rowanwater mobile home park/lodges in the north-east, but it seems he also later sonar-ed downstream of the weir as far as and beyond the spot where Nicola Bulley was found. If so, how did 2 or 3 men on an inflatable miss seeing her where the river was quite narrow?  One too occupied with viewing the sonar screen, the other(s) with steering the boat and keeping watch on the sonar tow-fish so it didn't get stuck perhaps?  Or was she not in the river at all at that time but placed there later?  Rawcliffe Road and a small lay-by are very close to the river at that point* so an ideal dropping off point after dark.  Lay-by and tree/shrub in stream opposite where Nicola was found centre of photo...

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8637128,-2.8381412,264a,35y,12.92h,22.78t/data=!3m1!1e3

Rawcliffe Road and lay-by on streetview...

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.8648775,-2.8376289,3a,49.8y,205.82h,80.83t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbZ-iRFNT3mT4Ldg0hOPrng!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

ETA... *and unlit.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2023, 08:06:36 AM by Myster »
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #96 on: February 25, 2023, 08:27:43 AM »
And so the conspiracy brigade rolls on.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Myster

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #97 on: February 25, 2023, 08:48:09 AM »
And so the conspiracy brigade rolls on.
Have to wait for the June inquest and post-mortem findings, such as how long she was in the Wyre.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/inquest-hears-nicola-bulleys-family-8187862
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #98 on: February 25, 2023, 09:29:19 AM »
Have to wait for the June inquest and post-mortem findings, such as how long she was in the Wyre.

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/inquest-hears-nicola-bulleys-family-8187862
As if the results of that are going to stop the nonsense. *%87
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Brietta

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #99 on: February 25, 2023, 02:54:35 PM »
As if the results of that are going to stop the nonsense. *%87
The ghouls are at it already.
I don't think our society is sick ~ I think it is terminally ill.
Books telling 'untold story' of Nicola Bulley slammed as family grieves
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/books-telling-untold-story-of-nicola-bulley-slammed-as-family-grieves/ar-AA17ULER?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=698caf255b934697a171a955d7e6a161&ei=26
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

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Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #100 on: February 28, 2023, 10:17:53 AM »
The ghouls are at it already.
I don't think our society is sick ~ I think it is terminally ill.
Books telling 'untold story' of Nicola Bulley slammed as family grieves
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/books-telling-untold-story-of-nicola-bulley-slammed-as-family-grieves/ar-AA17ULER?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=698caf255b934697a171a955d7e6a161&ei=26


Dreadful.

I don't understand  some people's sick fascination with this tragic case.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #101 on: February 28, 2023, 11:13:01 AM »

Dreadful.

I don't understand  some people's sick fascination with this tragic case.

Because an 'expert' enlisted by the family, went around telling the media that Nicola wasn't in the river, & that her phone had been placed on the bench as a decoy.

That didn't help.
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Offline Myster

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #102 on: March 07, 2023, 04:00:06 PM »
Curtis Media, the guy who was recently lambasted by the MailOnline, having a chat with a local gent...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU9ePFhZOiY

... and a walk downstream past the weir to the spot where Nicola Bulley was found...

https://youtu.be/8Wxjrzvtw1E?t=638
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #103 on: April 11, 2023, 05:39:37 PM »
It’s being reported that the police have returned to the site where Nicola’s body was found this afternoon….
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Myster

Re: The Disappearance of Nicola Bulley.
« Reply #104 on: April 12, 2023, 07:00:21 AM »
It’s being reported that the police have returned to the site where Nicola’s body was found this afternoon….
Trying to discover if it was possible she floated over the shallow weir and/or searching for missing clothing, such as gilet, woolly hat, shoes?...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11960259/Police-divers-return-river-Nicola-Bulleys-body-found.html
It's one of them cases, in'it... one of them f*ckin' cases.