Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?

[G-Unit]

Well done you‼      Indeed you have hit on some new learning.  Particularly for the parents of the missing child.

Not forgetting the generations who certainly will not ignore the lesson learned.

Nor any potential abductors in holiday resorts who may have learned it's not a good idea to take a foreign child because of the merry hell it will cause.

The world seems to be devided between those who already knew that leaving small children alone in an unlocked apartment and those who said, even after the event, that they had, or would have, done the same as the McCanns.

Then there are those who doubt that there was an abduction, despite what must be one of the biggest press campaigns in it's favour ever.

I wonder how many abductions of children from overseas have taken place in holiday resorts?

[Wonderfulspam]

The world seems to be devided between those who already knew that leaving small children alone in an unlocked apartment and those who said, even after the event, that they had, or would have, done the same as the McCanns.

Then there are those who doubt that there was an abduction, despite what must be one of the biggest press campaigns in it's favour ever.

I wonder how many abductions of children from overseas have taken place in holiday resorts?

There was that Australian brat that was taken from a tent the other year. Isolated incident. No connection to the notorious paedophile gangs involved. Madeleine's abduction is quite unique, in that there haven't been any similar abductions in Portugal before or after.

[G-Unit]

If it’s ok for Amaral to libel the McCanns why not just the troll say whatever he wants?  He has been for months now anyway.

One of the things we have learned is that Amaral didn't libel the McCanns according to the laws of Portugal. Neither did Portugal breach their human rights according to the ECHR. Some people disagree, but that's just their 'armchair lawyer' opinion.

[Wonderfulspam]

If it’s ok for Amaral to libel the McCanns why not just the troll say whatever he wants?  He has been for months now anyway.

Well, I didn't say anything libellous, in my opinion. I simply pointed out that one can interpret the McCanns behaviour in two ways. One that supports abduction, another that also fits in with the conclusions of the initial police investigation. That is my reasoned observation of the matter, it's based on the data contained within the files. So, it isn't libellous I'm afraid. No, because I'm not saying the McCanns did stage an abduction, I'm saying it's not unreasonable to deduce that they could have, based in part on Mr McKenzies evidence.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The world seems to be devided between those who already knew that leaving small children alone in an unlocked apartment and those who said, even after the event, that they had, or would have, done the same as the McCanns.

Then there are those who doubt that there was an abduction, despite what must be one of the biggest press campaigns in it's favour ever.

I wonder how many abductions of children from overseas have taken place in holiday resorts?

Were you unaware of the media campaign pointing thefinger at the McCanns for the best partof a year after the disappearance?

[Vertigo Swirl]

One of the things we have learned is that Amaral didn't libel the McCanns according to the laws of Portugal. Neither did Portugal breach their human rights according to the ECHR. Some people disagree, but that's just their 'armchair lawyer' opinion.

I’ve asked you twice recently for a cite to the ruling which explicitly states that Amaral did not libel the McCanns.  Both times you ignored my request.  Are you going to ignore it again?

[Mr Gray]

There are ways to get across every point without falling foul of the moderators.

Unfair moderation ahs ruined this forum. moderators on here continually break the rules.

I experienced abuse from moderators who seemed to have a personal vendetta against me....why you appointed stephen as a mod....doesnt make sense,
Im not that bothered but please dont trot out the same old.....obey the rules and youl be fine

[Wonderfulspam]

I’ve asked you twice recently for a cite to the ruling which explicitly states that Amaral did not libel the McCanns.  Both times you ignored my request.  Are you going to ignore it again?

Did the McCanns win the libel trial?  No?  Ah right, he didn't libel them then, otherwise they would have won, wouldn't they.

[Mr Gray]

Almost 16 years on and Madeleine's whereabouts or what happened to her are still a mystery to everyone except possibly the individual or individuals who last saw her alive.  All we still have are theories based on the mountain of documents and evidence that has accrued over that time.

16 years on the BKA know exactly what happened to maddie as a direct  intervention by SY into the investigation

[Mr Gray]

The world seems to be devided between those who already knew that leaving small children alone in an unlocked apartment and those who said, even after the event, that they had, or would have, done the same as the McCanns.

Then there are those who doubt that there was an abduction, despite what must be one of the biggest press campaigns in it's favour ever.

I wonder how many abductions of children from overseas have taken place in holiday resorts?

absolute junk...doesnt even warranta response

[Wonderfulspam]

16 years on the BKA know exactly what happened to maddie as a direct  intervention by SY into the investigation

Of course they do. I find it a bit strange the BKA still haven't shared their evidence with either the MET or Madeleine's parents though. But it's probably not important. They can all just wait until the other cases are dealt with. We can't expect Wolters to manage 6 charges at once, 5 must be the limit.

[Wonderfulspam]

absolute junk...doesnt even warranta response

Well that's demonstrably false, because you just responded.

[Mr Gray]

One of the things we have learned is that Amaral didn't libel the McCanns according to the laws of Portugal. Neither did Portugal breach their human rights according to the ECHR. Some people disagree, but that's just their 'armchair lawyer' opinion.

You stll dont  understand the judgenent....it clear Amaaral did libel the McCanns but the portuguse  courts ruled thhat amarals rights under article 10 overuled the mcacans rights undr 8.

the ECHR rulled in Amarals favour based on the false claims in the SC judgement

[Mr Gray]

Well that's demonstrably false, because you just responded.

  your post doesnt warrant a response either

[G-Unit]

I’ve asked you twice recently for a cite to the ruling which explicitly states that Amaral did not libel the McCanns.  Both times you ignored my request.  Are you going to ignore it again?

Where did you get the idea that he did?