Author Topic: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?  (Read 287347 times)

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #195 on: February 14, 2023, 05:54:44 PM »
Based on anything in particular, or just blind faith in Wolters?
I've answered several questions and happy to answer more but first..do you believe beyond reasonable doubt that CB is guilty of the rape of DM

Offline G-Unit

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #196 on: February 14, 2023, 06:07:32 PM »
There are lots of words which would explain it, El, but I think it can best be summed up with "empathy".  Some have it in spades and others evidence a severe lack of.

There is nothing to be done about it ~ particularly as far as opinion posters using the internet are concerned ~ fortunately in the real world there are checks and balances which iron out most of the differences.

Posting on the forum about the McCann family has certainly been an education for me.  None more so than reading responses to this thread topic.  I come over all Victor Meldrewish - "I don't belieeeeeve it"

So some of us may have learned nothing over the past sixteen years but evidently those investigating Madeleine McCann's case have learned a great deal.  And these are the guys who matter.

We empathise with others when we  are able to imagine how they feel. To empathise with the McCanns is remarkably easy, because they have told us how they have been feeling ever since their daughter was allegedly abducted. All people need to do is believe in the stranger abduction. It's not so easy for those who doubt that is what happened.
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #197 on: February 14, 2023, 06:15:35 PM »
We empathise with others when we  are able to imagine how they feel. To empathise with the McCanns is remarkably easy, because they have told us how they have been feeling ever since their daughter was allegedly abducted. All people need to do is believe in the stranger abduction. It's not so easy for those who doubt that is what happened.
You have no apparent understanding of what empathy is.   You don’t have to be told how someone is feeling in order to be able to empathise with them
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Brietta

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #198 on: February 14, 2023, 06:19:37 PM »
First the Portuguese, then the English and now the Germans have tried to solve Madeleine's disappearance but none have managed it.

There was no chance that Amaral's investigation would solve anything.  But they could have.  At one time they were showing an interest in Brueckner.  And they had unsolved crimes to crack involving home invasions among which was the forensic evidence of Brueckner's pubic hair.

The McCann private detectives didn't have the resources the National forces have but they kept the investigation alive when no-one else was and their evidence was passed on when Scotland Yard took over.

I think your judgement that SY and the BKA haven't managed to solve the case is premature.  Madeleine's is still an active case and while that situation prevails is capable of resolution.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Anthro

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #199 on: February 14, 2023, 06:30:25 PM »
Based on anything in particular, or just blind faith in Wolters?
Wolters only conveys what he’s told to.

Offline Brietta

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #200 on: February 14, 2023, 06:38:26 PM »
We empathise with others when we  are able to imagine how they feel. To empathise with the McCanns is remarkably easy, because they have told us how they have been feeling ever since their daughter was allegedly abducted. All people need to do is believe in the stranger abduction. It's not so easy for those who doubt that is what happened.

There are individuals who have no empathy for a child who went missing when she was three and who have striven over the sixteen years of her absence to ensure that every initiative taken on her behalf was obstructed.

That starts with objection to fund money raised to finance the search for her when only her parents were keeping the investigation alive.  It continued in resistance to her parent's attempts to have her case taken up by the British authorities and investigation started.
Where the malice and lack of empathy will end - I haven't a clue.  But the difference in attitude and empathy shown to desperate parents and the suspect in Madeleine's disappearance who happens to be a burglar, convicted rapist and child abuser, is very marked.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline G-Unit

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #201 on: February 14, 2023, 07:13:37 PM »
You have no apparent understanding of what empathy is.   You don’t have to be told how someone is feeling in order to be able to empathise with them

Your skill of grasping the wrong end of the stick is impressive. As I said, we can imagine how they feel.
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

Offline G-Unit

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #202 on: February 14, 2023, 07:21:32 PM »
There are individuals who have no empathy for a child who went missing when she was three and who have striven over the sixteen years of her absence to ensure that every initiative taken on her behalf was obstructed.

That starts with objection to fund money raised to finance the search for her when only her parents were keeping the investigation alive.  It continued in resistance to her parent's attempts to have her case taken up by the British authorities and investigation started.
Where the malice and lack of empathy will end - I haven't a clue.  But the difference in attitude and empathy shown to desperate parents and the suspect in Madeleine's disappearance who happens to be a burglar, convicted rapist and child abuser, is very marked.

How can you empathise with a child when you don't know what happened to her? Doesn't that make it difficult to 'walk in her shoes'?
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #203 on: February 14, 2023, 08:14:19 PM »
How can you empathise with a child when you don't know what happened to her? Doesn't that make it difficult to 'walk in her shoes'?

I sympathize.does that make it better

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #204 on: February 14, 2023, 08:18:11 PM »
Your skill of grasping the wrong end of the stick is impressive. As I said, we can imagine how they feel.
Can we?  Tell me how they feel then.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #205 on: February 14, 2023, 08:21:33 PM »
How can you empathise with a child when you don't know what happened to her? Doesn't that make it difficult to 'walk in her shoes'?
I knew you couldn’t do empathy.  There was a little girl alone in the dark.  Something bad happened to her.  And you can’t put yourself in her shoes and imagine how she would have felt during this ordeal?  Astonishing.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline barrier

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #206 on: February 14, 2023, 08:48:12 PM »
I would be a bit careful if I were you.
Away with you, the sun will rise again tomorrow if spared I'll see it again so you have no impact on life at all.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2023, 09:25:11 PM by Brietta »
This is my own private domicile and I shall not be harassed, biatch:Jesse Pinkman Character.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #207 on: February 14, 2023, 08:56:13 PM »
I knew you couldn’t do empathy.  There was a little girl alone in the dark.  Something bad happened to her.  And you can’t put yourself in her shoes and imagine how she would have felt during this ordeal?  Astonishing.

How do you know there was a lttle girl alone in the dark?
Read and abide by the forum rules.
Result = happy posting.
Ignore and break the rules
Result = edits, deletions and unhappiness
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?board=2.0

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #208 on: February 14, 2023, 08:57:44 PM »
How do you know there was a lttle girl alone in the dark?
Oh wait.  You think Madeline died surrounded by family during the day?  My mistake.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #209 on: February 14, 2023, 08:57:58 PM »
I've answered several questions and happy to answer more but first..do you believe beyond reasonable doubt that CB is guilty of the rape of DM

No, I believe he is innocent. I've seen no evidence he ever raped DM.
Christian Brueckner Fan Club