Author Topic: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?  (Read 263977 times)

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Offline Eleanor

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #495 on: May 22, 2023, 08:17:19 AM »
It's quite strange considering the herculean efforts McCann supporters have made trying to convince the world that cadaver dogs, particularly those trained and used by Martin Grime, are unreliable.

There was no great effort required.  Without Forensics there is nothing.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #496 on: May 22, 2023, 08:37:03 AM »
It's quite strange considering the herculean efforts McCann supporters have made trying to convince the world that cadaver dogs, particularly those trained and used by Martin Grime, are unreliable.

Doesn't take any effort...grime has admitted his cadaver dogs are unreliable but you can't accept the truth

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #497 on: May 22, 2023, 08:46:01 AM »
What's more astonishing is the way some have been taken in by Grime try

Offline G-Unit

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #498 on: May 22, 2023, 09:12:13 AM »
You only have to comment and there's an astonishing rush by the supporters to repeat their points of view. They are sooo obsessed by the subject, poor things.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #499 on: May 22, 2023, 09:24:43 AM »
You only have to comment and there's an astonishing rush by the supporters to repeat their points of view. They are sooo obsessed by the subject, poor things.

Lol...you don't have a reply...grime has admitted his cadaver dogs were unreliable

Offline Eleanor

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #500 on: May 22, 2023, 09:44:16 AM »

Meanwhile, The Sceptics continue to repeat their libellous comments.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #501 on: May 22, 2023, 09:44:35 AM »
You only have to comment and there's an astonishing rush by the supporters to repeat their points of view. They are sooo obsessed by the subject, poor things.
Provocative, goading, ill-becoming of a moderator, tsk.  You also made an unsubstantiated claim yesterday that the ECHR stated that the dogs alerted to cadaver as a proven fact, care to provide a cite?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline G-Unit

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #502 on: May 22, 2023, 10:05:06 AM »
Provocative, goading, ill-becoming of a moderator, tsk.  You also made an unsubstantiated claim yesterday that the ECHR stated that the dogs alerted to cadaver as a proven fact, care to provide a cite?

Once again you choose to accuse me of saying something I never said, so no cite will be forthcoming from me.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #503 on: May 22, 2023, 10:14:41 AM »
Meanwhile, The Sceptics continue to repeat their libellous comments.

It isn't libellous to say you believe the McCanns guilty, because there is evidence against them. Martin Smith believed he saw Gerry, carrying his inert daughter away from the scene. That is evidence. From that evidence one is at liberty to deduce that Madeleine was dead & the McCanns staged an abduction. No need for dogs.

Anyway, how's the case against the abductor going? Having much luck are they? No? Well, I may have just explained the reason for that.
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #504 on: May 22, 2023, 10:16:12 AM »
Lol...you don't have a reply...grime has admitted his cadaver dogs were unreliable

That may be so. But how can we be certain Maddie didn't die in the apartment?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #505 on: May 22, 2023, 10:23:44 AM »
No it isn't.

I know. But there's nothing to talk about. Not much happening in the case against the murderer. But maybe next year.
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Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #506 on: May 22, 2023, 10:26:42 AM »
Why do you and others constantly feel the need to slag off HCW?  It seems he is a massive threat to your beliefs… has he been proved wrong? 
Amaral has been proven to be a liar, HCW has not.  There’s one difference for you.

Amaral has been proven to be a liar, HCW has not.

Well, we all know what HCW truth is ......but is it the truth.


Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #507 on: May 22, 2023, 10:27:58 AM »
It is proven that the evidence Amaral used  to support his thesis is wrong...

Well, you are still waiting to see what HCW evidence is...or if he has any at all.

GA was there from day one.....it seems HCW is relying on hearsay.

Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #508 on: May 22, 2023, 10:32:16 AM »
Lol...you don't have a reply...grime has admitted his cadaver dogs were unreliable

Wasnt it gmcc who said the dogs were unreliable?

Still, the fact remains it seems the dogs did not react to anything or anyone else possessions apartment/car etc.

11:13am Mar 18, 2019
According to a Portuguese police report, Eddie and Keela alerted a total of 13 times, including inside the McCann holiday apartment; a rental car they had hired three weeks after Maddie disappeared; and some personal items belonging to the family.
In later television interviews, Gerry McCann questioned the reliability of cadaver dogs. The McCanns have strenuously denied any involvement in the disappearance of their daughter.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #509 on: May 22, 2023, 10:37:22 AM »
Amaral has been proven to be a liar, HCW has not.

Well, we all know what HCW truth is ......but is it the truth.

It isn't the truth, because Brueckner MUST be presumed innocent, as innocent as the McCanns are, &, if the presumption of innocence means the McCanns just didn't do it, then the same applies to Brueckner. Therefore Wolters is a liar.
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