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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #675 on: November 04, 2024, 04:54:32 PM »
Explain why my opinion that Madeleine was abducted by a violent burglar with paedo tendencies is delusional.

Do you have any evidence to support this theory? If not then you could well be delusional.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #676 on: November 04, 2024, 04:58:40 PM »
Did any of you watch the recent documentary on the Zodiac killer?  A wealth of circumstantial evidence against one individual who very obviously was the perp but just never enough evidence to take it to court so justice was never served.  Well worth watching.  Sometimes LE knows enough to know that their key suspect is their man but simply can’t secure the clinching evidence to prove it.  It doesn’t mean they are completely wrong and need to start looking at someone else, why is that so very hard to grasp?
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #677 on: November 04, 2024, 05:03:21 PM »
Did any of you watch the recent documentary on the Zodiac killer?  A wealth of circumstantial evidence against one individual who very obviously was the perp but just never enough evidence to take it to court so justice was never served.  Well worth watching.  Sometimes LE knows enough to know that their key suspect is their man but simply can’t secure the clinching evidence to prove it.  It doesn’t mean they are completely wrong and need to start looking at someone else, why is that so very hard to grasp?

According to Wolters he already has the evidence to be certain Brueckner is the murderer. Kate & Gerry remain sceptical though. They must be mad not to believe the three investigative forces.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #678 on: November 04, 2024, 05:20:40 PM »
So, do elucidate.  Had CB actually been convicted of the crimes he was recently tried for this would have made all you McCann doubters concede that perhaps the Germans were right to consider him the chief suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann?  No, of course it wouldn’t have made any difference to your opinion, you’d still be utterly convinced he had nothing to do with it and it was the McCanns who did away with their daugther, so why on earth does his recent acquittal in these cases make any difference or change anything wrt MM?  Why the gloating and “told you so finger wagging” now?  Explain the logic. 
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".

Offline jassi

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #679 on: November 04, 2024, 05:23:01 PM »
According to Wolters he already has the evidence to be certain Brueckner is the murderer. Kate & Gerry remain sceptical though. They must be mad not to believe the three investigative forces.


Either that, or they know that Wolters does not have that evidence
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #680 on: November 04, 2024, 05:28:40 PM »
Explain why my opinion that Madeleine was abducted by a violent burglar with paedo tendencies is delusional.

Because there was no abduction.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #681 on: November 04, 2024, 05:29:44 PM »
So, do elucidate.  Had CB actually been convicted of the crimes he was recently tried for this would have made all you McCann doubters concede that perhaps the Germans were right to consider him the chief suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann?  No, of course it wouldn’t have made any difference to your opinion, you’d still be utterly convinced he had nothing to do with it and it was the McCanns who did away with their daugther, so why on earth does his recent acquittal in these cases make any difference or change anything wrt MM?  Why the gloating and “told you so finger wagging” now?  Explain the logic.

We tried telling you 4 years ago that Brueckner would never be charged with anything relating to Maddie but you wouldn't have it. You carry on believing Wolters has abduction evidence if it makes you feel morally superior. In reality it's making you look a bit stupid. But hey, maybe Wolters will prove us all wrong next year aye.
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #682 on: November 04, 2024, 05:30:38 PM »
Did any of you watch the recent documentary on the Zodiac killer?  A wealth of circumstantial evidence against one individual who very obviously was the perp but just never enough evidence to take it to court so justice was never served.  Well worth watching.  Sometimes LE knows enough to know that their key suspect is their man but simply can’t secure the clinching evidence to prove it.  It doesn’t mean they are completely wrong and need to start looking at someone else, why is that so very hard to grasp?

That could also it seem apply to the mccs

Offline jassi

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #683 on: November 04, 2024, 05:33:17 PM »
Evidence that does not pass the test in court is really no more than opinion.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #684 on: November 04, 2024, 05:34:12 PM »

Either that, or they know that Wolters does not have that evidence

That's the most logical conclusion. There's really no good reason for the McCanns to doubt the three forces, they are in possession of all that abduction evidence they've spent nearly 20 years gathering & Kate & Gerry know they themselves are innocent, not just in law but in fact.
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline kizzy

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #685 on: November 04, 2024, 05:36:15 PM »
So, do elucidate.  Had CB actually been convicted of the crimes he was recently tried for this would have made all you McCann doubters concede that perhaps the Germans were right to consider him the chief suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann?  No, of course it wouldn’t have made any difference to your opinion, you’d still be utterly convinced he had nothing to do with it and it was the McCanns who did away with their daugther, so why on earth does his recent acquittal in these cases make any difference or change anything wrt MM?  Why the gloating and “told you so finger wagging” now?  Explain the logic.

Had CB actually been convicted of the crimes he was recently tried for this would have made all you McCann doubters

But he hasn't been ...has he.

Where is your logic

Silly post all  based on probabilities

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #686 on: November 04, 2024, 05:39:18 PM »
Evidence that does not pass the test in court is really no more than opinion.

I'm glad the German court reached the correct verdict based on the evidence & didn't just convict Brueckner because Wolters said so.
In McCann land there's no need for a trial. If Wolters says Brueckner is guilty of something then he must be.
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #687 on: November 04, 2024, 05:53:17 PM »
Because there was no abduction.

Certainly the evidence of it still amounts to little more than Kate & Gerry's word. That & Brueckner's bogus confession.
Christian Brueckner Fan Club

Offline jassi

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #688 on: November 04, 2024, 06:41:13 PM »
Yep. That's the gist of it. Anyone on earth could be a potential suspect, just not the McCanns. Anyway, whatever happened to Mr Gray? He spent the best part of the last 4 years telling us that Wolters has solved the case, has photographic evidence & that CB would be charged after the Behan rape trial because the two cases are connected. Well, the Behan rape trial is now over so we shouldn't have too much longer to wait until Brueckner is charged.

Re Mr Gray, he doesn't seem to have been around for most of this year.
Perhaps he has passed over to that great Dental surgery in the sky, or more likely is giving some other forum the benefit of his great legal knowledge.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?
« Reply #689 on: November 04, 2024, 07:17:09 PM »
Because there was no abduction.
Three police forces disagree with your (uninformed) assessment.
"You can't reason with the unreasonable".