Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Why would you think that funny...seem to remember CC was washed.

The very last thing Maddie held....washed away.

So if CC was washed ......so would the rest of things.


Can you actually come up with a coherent and credible alternative explanation for why so many top government, PR, police, lawyers and state security officials positively swarmed like locusts into that little village of Praia da Luz, all in just those first few days?

What’s your theory re: the locusts Kizzy?  Would love to hear it. My theory is the McCs knew that Tony Blair and Gordon Brown were having an affair and thst they had both spent time secretly holidaying in the Algarve as guests of Clement Freud.  I believe some sort of ring may have been involved *shudder*. Anyway, whatever it was they need to keep the McCs sweet otherwise they’d have blown the whistle on the whole sordid affair and brought down the government.  Somebody told me this on Twitter so I know it must be true.

[Wonderfulspam]

Yes absolutely shocking and indicative of a massive cover up to protect the McCanns.  Clearly these were not just two common or garden doctors on holiday with friends but two people who played a critical role within the British Establishment whose reputations needed protecting at any cost.  V. sinister.  Probably free masons imo.
But getting back to the defrosted bodily fluids,  I don’t understand your remark about cross contamination.  According to Amaral these defrosted bodily fluids were actually found in the boot of the car.  Whose were they?  Do you know?  Madeleine’s surely?

All I care about are Christian Brueckner's bodily fluids.

[Lace]

Once again, I find myself in profound agreement with the salient points of your post.  It all boils down to the jemmied shutter, which was never jemmied.  Gerry just said it was jemmied having forgotten that he forgot to jemmy it in the first place, the silly billy.   Now, if only he’d actually jemmied it when he should have jemmied it, it then everyone would have fallen for thr abduction hoax, even Amaral, and possibly even you.  Makes ya think dunnit.  So, I wonder what the McCanns have that makes them so incredibly important to not one but several successive British governments.  I bet if Jeremy Corbyn had been PM he’d have put a stop to all this sinister protectionism and put them McCanns both in jail where they truly belong.  Oh Jeremy Corbyn.  Such a missed opportunity for J4M.

Don't forget whilst staging an abduction Kate put her fingerprints on the window doh

[Lace]

Why would you think that funny...seem to remember CC was washed.

The very last thing Maddie held....washed away.

So if CC was washed ......so would the rest of things.


Can you actually come up with a coherent and credible alternative explanation for why so many top government, PR, police, lawyers and state security officials positively swarmed like locusts into that little village of Praia da Luz, all in just those first few days?

As the news of an abduction of a British child  in a foreign country was spread worldwide.  It wouldn't have been strange to have all of these government PR's arriving.  They weren't protecting the McCann's though were they?  The McCann's were treated as any other family would have been treated by the Portuguese Police.  They were even made arguido's. Amaral has always used the British as an excuse as to why he was taken off the case, even though he once said the British Police believed him [so which is it]   Truth was he was coming up with the most ridiculous theories imaginable.  Trying to fit the dog  alerts to a theory.  Not the other way around.

[Lace]

So Hazel said the assailant was left handed and CB is right handed.  So when did Hazel see CB using his left hand?  When he was holding the knife?  Maybe he wanted to keep his right hand free to roll her over on the bed it would have been awkward for him if he had to do that left handed also changing a condom he would do that with his right hand maybe Hazel saw him holding the knife in his left hand so thought he was left handed.  It's a bit ridiculous really.

[Wonderfulspam]

So Hazel said the assailant was left handed and CB is right handed.  So when did Hazel see CB using his left hand?  When he was holding the knife?  Maybe he wanted to keep his right hand free to roll her over on the bed it would have been awkward for him if he had to do that left handed also changing a condom he would do that with his right hand maybe Hazel saw him holding the knife in his left hand so thought he was left handed.  It's a bit ridiculous really.

CB had nothing to do with the rape of Hazel B. Please stop defaming him.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Don't forget whilst staging an abduction Kate put her fingerprints on the window doh

They really were a couple of clowns weren’t they?  So careless when staging the abduction but then I guess they knew that (like Trump) they could do anything they liked and no one could touch them.  This is what comes of having friends in high places and knowing secrets about them.

[Brietta]

So Hazel said the assailant was left handed and CB is right handed.  So when did Hazel see CB using his left hand?  When he was holding the knife?  Maybe he wanted to keep his right hand free to roll her over on the bed it would have been awkward for him if he had to do that left handed also changing a condom he would do that with his right hand maybe Hazel saw him holding the knife in his left hand so thought he was left handed.  It's a bit ridiculous really.

Excellent point Lace.
Particularly since we don't know exactly what was said during the procedures in the Braunschweig court for the simple reason there is no available verbatim record published.

[Wonderfulspam]

I've no doubt FF or whomever of his legal team were probing & rigorous in their cross exam of Hazel B but it appears her testimony is the only evidence against CB, there's no physical or forensic against him. I fail to see how the court could be expected to reach any other verdict. Or perhaps members here think we should just start throwing men in prison based solely on a woman's testimony.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I've no doubt FF or whomever of his legal team were probing & rigorous in their cross exam of Hazel B but it appears her testimony is the only evidence against CB, there's no physical or forensic against him. I fail to see how the court could be expected to reach any other verdict. Or perhaps members here think we should just start throwing men in prison based solely on a woman's testimony.

I think this is a marvellous idea, well done for suggesting it.   We could also throw men in prison based on other men’s testimony eg: Martin Smith’s, or even on dogs’ barks, then we could finally see J4M. 

[Wonderfulspam]

I think this is a marvellous idea, well done for suggesting it.   We could also throw men in prison based on other men’s testimony eg: Martin Smith’s, or even on dogs’ barks, then we could finally see J4M.

I dont disagree, there isn't enough evidence to throw the McCanns in prison unfortunately. But that doesn't mean they didn't do it. Much like CB raping Behan. Did he rape Her? Probably. But probably isn't enough I'm afraid.

[Vertigo Swirl]

I dont disagree, there isn't enough evidence to throw the McCanns in prison unfortunately. But that doesn't mean they didn't do it. Much like CB raping Behan. Did he rape Her? Probably. But probably isn't enough I'm afraid.

Not enough evidence against the McCanns?  I thought there was a wealth of it!  Especially the jemmied shutter, the defrosted bodily fluids in the back of the car and JT’s flip flops which didn’t apparently make any sound.  Then there was Gerry swearing on the bus at the airport and saying “we’re not here to enjoy ourselves”.  Just a coincidence?  I think not! Pretty near conclusive if you ask me.

[Eleanor]

I've no doubt FF or whomever of his legal team were probing & rigorous in their cross exam of Hazel B but it appears her testimony is the only evidence against CB, there's no physical or forensic against him. I fail to see how the court could be expected to reach any other verdict. Or perhaps members here think we should just start throwing men in prison based solely on a woman's testimony.

What a good idea. I can think of at least one person.  Leave it to me and I will see what I can do.

[jassi]

What a good idea. I can think of at least one person.  Leave it to me and I will see what I can do.

Like everyone else on here and on other forums, you can do nothing but talk.

[Eleanor]

Like everyone else on here and on other forums, you can do nothing but talk.

What's this got to do with anything?