Have we learned anything new after almost 16 years?

[Vertigo Swirl]

what sort of forensic evidence proving this do you think might have been destroyed by the 20+ people walking through the apartment that night?

well we will never know what was destroyed .....will we.

The thing is kmcc "knew" that Maddie had been taken straight away.

She  thoughroly searched the apartment [10mins] yet the mccs let everyone in  ......why


Pre-Secured Scenes
The potential for evidence (or crime scene) contamination increases as the number of people entering a crime scene also increases. Once a scene has been secured, the risk of contamination is greatly reduced. However, what about the events which occurred before the scene was secured? How many people entered and left the scene without being recorded as being there?

No, but we can speculate on what sort of forensic evidence you imagine might point to an accidental death following a fall and a cover up by the parents that was lost in the 20 person plus pile on.  Can you give me a “for example”?

[Vertigo Swirl]

By the couch?

If you think Madeleine was hurt by the couch at the time Kate entered the apartment please describe in your opinion the events leading up to that moment and the subsequent ten or fifteen minutes after her discovery.  TIA.

[kizzy]

No, but we can speculate on what sort of forensic evidence you imagine might point to an accidental death following a fall and a cover up by the parents that was lost in the 20 person plus pile on.  Can you give me a “for example”?

Ye sure..but I would have thought even you would know...without asking me.



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If a crime scene is contaminated, valuable forensic evidence like fingerprints, DNA, hair fibers, or other trace evidence can be lost or compromised, potentially weakening a case against a suspect and making it difficult to establish a link between the perpetrator and the crime scene,

[Vertigo Swirl]

Ye sure..but I would have thought even you would know...without asking me.



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If a crime scene is contaminated, valuable forensic evidence like fingerprints, DNA, hair fibers, or other trace evidence can be lost or compromised, potentially weakening a case against a suspect and making it difficult to establish a link between the perpetrator and the crime scene,

Right.  DNA, hair fibres, fingerprints- do you think if any of those were found belonging to any of the McCanns in the apartment that this would be suspicious or point to an accidental death and cover up?

[kizzy]

Right.  DNA, hair fibres, fingerprints- do you think if any of those were found belonging to any of the McCanns in the apartment that this would be suspicious or point to an accidental death and cover up?

Wait........I thought you thought Maddie was abducted

do you think if any of those were found belonging to any of the McCanns in the apartment that this would be suspicious or point to an accidental death and cover up?

Why not  a so-called  abductor.

Do you think then it would only be mccs DNA ......because no one else was in there...so just let in the 20+

[Vertigo Swirl]

Wait........I thought you thought Maddie was abducted

do you think if any of those were found belonging to any of the McCanns in the apartment that this would be suspicious or point to an accidental death and cover up?

Why not  a so-called  abductor.

Do you think then it would only be mccs DNA ......because no one else was in there...so just let in the 20+

And I thought you thought the McCanns dunnit which is why my question was if Gerry McCann had found Madeleine dead in the apartment after falling off the sofa or balcony and carried her body through town afterwards what sort of forensic evidence proving this do you think might have been destroyed by the 20+ people walking through the apartment that night?
You imply that the McCanns deliberately allowed 20+ people into the apartment to trample all over the DNA evidence however obviously there would be no DNA evidence worth trampling over if they did it, so basically your criticism is really only valid if you think that DNA evidence of a third party may have been destroyed. 

[kizzy]

And I thought you thought the McCanns dunnit which is why my question was if Gerry McCann had found Madeleine dead in the apartment after falling off the sofa or balcony and carried her body through town afterwards what sort of forensic evidence proving this do you think might have been destroyed by the 20+ people walking through the apartment that night?
You imply that the McCanns deliberately allowed 20+ people into the apartment to trample all over the DNA evidence however obviously there would be no DNA evidence worth trampling over if they did it, so basically your criticism is really only valid if you think that DNA evidence of a third party may have been destroyed.

I was talking about the so called abductor DNA.

So why you have to go OTT over what you think - I think is just baffelling

[Vertigo Swirl]

I was talking about the so called abductor DNA.

So why you have to go OTT over what you think - I think is just baffelling

In what way have I gone OTT exactly?  I suspect you find a lot of things “baffelling” Kizzy, never mind.

[kizzy]

In what way have I gone OTT exactly?  I suspect you find a lot of things “baffelling” Kizzy, never mind.

Whatever.......but just remember you only reply to the hand.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Whatever.......but just remember you only reply to the hand.

Ah, the face ain’t listenin’.  That explains it.

[Brietta]

Ah, the face ain’t listenin’.  That explains it.

Hmmm

[sadie]

from: Vertigo Swirl on February 09, 2025, 04:44:59 PM

    Right.  DNA, hair fibres, fingerprints- do you think if any of those were found belonging to any of the McCanns in the apartment that this would be suspicious or point to an accidental death and cover up?

Wait........I thought you thought Maddie was abducted

do you think if any of those were found belonging to any of the McCanns in the apartment that this would be suspicious or point to an accidental death and cover up?

Why not  a so-called  abductor.

Do you think then it would only be mccs DNA ......because no one else was in there...so just let in the 20+

Kizzy, finding any of the stuff mentioned by VS would not be suspicious in any way.   The Mccanns were living there, fgs and there were bouind to be traces of them in the apartment.    No need to cover up their own traces.

[The General]

If you think Madeleine was hurt by the couch at the time Kate entered the apartment please describe in your opinion the events leading up to that moment and the subsequent ten or fifteen minutes after her discovery.  TIA.

It was a question.

[The General]

Nice little drunken piley on going on last night I see. Play nice ladies, or the mods might wake up and they'll take the crayons away again.

[Vertigo Swirl]

It was a question.

One loaded with implication.