Luke Mitchell - All quiet?

[Kenmair]

Asking about Dr Lean is not asking about the case but carrying on your rather sinister obsession with her.

Much of IB has been proven accurate by the transcripts. There are inaccuracies but they are few.

I’m interested in debating the case. I care not a fig who that’s with. What I’m not interested in are cowards who hide behind the anonymity they enjoy and throw stones at those who have raised their heads above the parapet.

She's not just raised her head above the parapet - she's actively encouraged a hate campaign against the victim's  family and gained thousands of pounds by various campaigns under false pretence which you don't seem to acknowledge.

There are dozens of transcript inaccuracies below if you wish to debate and answer why SL claimed to have all transcripts when they weren't available instead of judging me by your off kilter moral compass, remembering that you are arguing about a child murder that hasn't been legally contested since the original trial verdict.

https://lmtranscriptdiscussion.blogspot.com/2024/02/transcript-comparison-comparison.html

[faithlilly]

She's not just raised her head above the parapet - she's actively encouraged a hate campaign against the victim's  family and gained thousands of pounds by various campaigns under false pretence which you don't seem to acknowledge.

There are dozens of transcript inaccuracies below if you wish to debate and answer why SL claimed to have all transcripts when they weren't available instead of judging me by your off kilter moral compass, remembering that you are arguing about a child murder that hasn't been legally contested since the original trial verdict.

https://lmtranscriptdiscussion.blogspot.com/2024/02/transcript-comparison-comparison.html

I have no idea why Dr Lean has claimed anything and I’m sure you don’t expect me to have. I am not her keeper and to be honest I’m beyond bored by you and your ilk expecting me to make excuses for her. I can’t. She was dishonest but as someone who has tried to the best of my ability to find official confirmation for anything I post it really doesn’t impact me.

The thing about miscarriages of justice, as I believe this to be, is that no one gets justice….not Luke, not Jodi’s family and certainly not Jodi.

[Kenmair]

I have no idea why Dr Lean has claimed anything and I’m sure you don’t expect me to. I am not her keeper and to be honest I’m beyond bored by you and your ilk expecting me to make excuses for her. I can’t. She was dishonest but as someone who has tried to the best of my ability to find official confirmation for anything I post it really doesn’t impact me.

The thing about miscarriages of justice, as I believe this to be, is that no one gets justice….not Luke, not Jodi’s family and certainly not Jodi.

You have quoted and supported Lean for years - now you don't. There is no MOJ. The only people that claim that are CM and the mentally deranged Lean who has history of false MOJ accusations - Hall & Prout. None of the Jones or Mitchell family (apart from his sole alibi) are asking for justice - they want to move on but for the cruel actions of lunatics like Lean, Forbes and the remaining fishwives of the LM campaign.

It's not your place to demand justice for people you don't know. Debate away, but don't implicate the family like you and Chris have done.

[faithlilly]

You have quoted and supported Lean for years - now you don't. There is no MOJ. The only people that claim that are CM and the mentally deranged Lean who has history of false MOJ accusations - Hall & Prout. None of the Jones or Mitchell family (apart from his sole alibi) are asking for justice - they want to move on but for the cruel actions of lunatics like Lean, Forbes and the remaining fishwives of the LM campaign.

It's not your place to demand justice for people you don't know. Debate away, but don't implicate the family like you and Chris have done.

Would you expect me to support someone I know has been dishonest? I’m sure it’s disappointing for you that you can’t suggest that whatever Dr Lean does I’ll support her but there it is. Two of the Mitchell family are definitely asking for justice. The Jones family…I wouldn’t have expected them to. Even when convictions are quashed it’s often hard for the victim of the crime’s families to accept that our legal system had the wrong person.

Yes it is my place to demand that a dreadful wrong is righted…not only my place but the duty of every citizen of this island. Further if the evidence is there to raise question marks over the complicity of any individual named in this case I will do so..without fear or favour.

[Mr Apples]

So it’s absolutely untrue that Luke wasn’t seen between 6.15 and 7.30. Dean Houston either saw Luke phone David High at 6.34 or 6.39 when he called his mum so he was certainly on Newbattle Road then. Being charitable Luke was not seen for around 30 minutes at the most and around 20 minutes at the least after being seen by Houston and Elliot that evening

20 mins to 30 mins is still enough time for him to do what I said he likely did. It's remarkable what an individual can do in a short space of time when in survival mode and full of adrenaline.

[faithlilly]

20 mins to 30 mins is still enough time for him to do what I said he likely did. It's remarkable what an individual can do in a short space of time when in survival mode and full of adrenaline.

What do you think that Luke did in those 20 to 30 minutes?

[Kenmair]

Would you expect me to support someone I know has been dishonest? I’m sure it’s disappointing for you that you can’t suggest that whatever Dr Lean does I’ll support her but there it is. Two of the Mitchell family are definitely asking for justice. The Jones family…I wouldn’t have expected them to. Even when convictions are quashed it’s often hard for the victim of the crime’s families to accept that our legal system had the wrong person.

Yes it is my place to demand that a dreadful wrong is righted…not only my place but the duty of every citizen of this island. Further if the evidence is there to raise question marks over the complicity of any individual named in this case I will do so..without fear or favour.

Why won't you address the lies that Lean has put forward - lies that you have used to advance futile arguments? 99% have no issue with a MOJ, only the killer and his mum. None of his family, dad, brother, cousins etc have spoken out. Yet again you have a dig at the victim's family which shows your lack of empathy. You were suckered by a fake criminologist and a fantasy lawyer which is probably harder to admit than the fact you were wrong all along.

If Lean said Aaron Campbell was a MOJ, I'm sure you'd consider it a dreadful wrong etc. Why support LM and no other convicted killer in the past 20 years? Lean is/was a complete amateur but you spent years extolling her virtues. You should get in touch with Gemma if you feel so strongly about it and join the front line - without fear or favour.

[Joe Blogs]

20 mins to 30 mins is still enough time for him to do what I said he likely did. It's remarkable what an individual can do in a short space of time when in survival mode and full of adrenaline.

Why didn't he just go home earlier, Mr Apples?
Besides, there is no proof whatsoever that LM went home at all between 6.30-7.00, that is the only 'possible' time according to the prosecution scenario, in which time we know he phoned David High twice and his mums landline once.
Why did LM need to stand on Newbattle Road at all after the murder showing off the' alleged' parka? Makes no sense to me!
Why didn't LM sneak home as soon as possible after the murder using back paths as much as possible?
Why the need to display himself at all if he was the killer?
He even managed to use his phone two or three times too without leaving any DNA on it, although we'll be told he cleaned it too.
There's just too much that defies logic for a lot of people, Mr Apples.

[faithlilly]

Why won't you address the lies that Lean has put forward - lies that you have used to advance futile arguments? 99% have no issue with a MOJ, only the killer and his mum. None of his family, dad, brother, cousins etc have spoken out. Yet again you have a dig at the victim's family which shows your lack of empathy. You were suckered by a fake criminologist and a fantasy lawyer which is probably harder to admit than the fact you were wrong all along.

If Lean said Aaron Campbell was a MOJ, I'm sure you'd consider it a dreadful wrong etc. Why support LM and no other convicted killer in the past 20 years? Lean is/was a complete amateur but you spent years extolling her virtues. You should get in touch with Gemma if you feel so strongly about it and join the front line - without fear or favour.

You have no idea what work I’ve been doing on behalf of wrongfully convicted individuals.

I’m sure Luke’s family have their reasons for their silence. Perhaps they’ve seen how Corrine has been treated by individuals such as yourself and decided to stay in the background.

You keep brewing that hatred sweetie. It will rot your insides though.

[Mr Apples]

What do you think that Luke did in those 20 to 30 minutes?

Went home, quickly briefed his mother, quickly rinsed his body in upstairs shower, quickly changed clothes and back out to meet the boys in the abbey. The timings for their meeting at the abbey aren't exact, even in the transcripts. Likewise, the pushbike boys' recollections on what LM was wearing at 1755/1800; one said a German army shirt sold in Flip (which I think LM was wearing underneath his parka) and one of the others said possibly a bomber jacket, but said he could be mistaken because he had often seen LM wearing said bomber jacket in school. It's messy. There's no doubt LM was on the NB rd between 1755-1820 as 2 boys whe knew him positively identified him. Lf, RW & ch didn't know him and were extremely confident it was him, wearing a parka jacket that went down to his bum, having seen his picture in a newspaper and tv interview. What are the chances of seeing someone similar looking to LM on the same road in a tiny area/settlement where LM lived at that time on that day? None. Simple as that. It's absurd reasoning to suggest it was a LM lookalike.

[Joe Blogs]

You have no idea what work I’ve been doing on behalf of wrongfully convicted individuals.

I’m sure Luke’s family have their reasons for their silence. Perhaps they’ve seen how Corrine has been treated by individuals such as yourself and decided to stay in the background.

You keep brewing that hatred sweetie. It will rot your insides though.

Ha ha! Thats exactly what I was thinking, Faith!
Poor Ken is definately going to end up with ulcers if he doesn't calm down a bit, poor chap.

[Joe Blogs]

Went home, quickly briefed his mother, quickly rinsed his body in upstairs shower, quickly changed clothes and back out to meet the boys in the abbey. The timings for their meeting at the abbey aren't exact, even in the transcripts. Likewise, the pushbike boys' recollections on what LM was wearing at 1755/1800; one said a German army shirt sold in Flip (which I think LM was wearing underneath his parka) and one of the others said possibly a bomber jacket, but said he could be mistaken because he had often seen LM wearing said bomber jacket in school. It's messy. There's no doubt LM was on the NB rd between 1755-1820 as 2 boys whe knew him positively identified him. Lf, RW & ch didn't know him and were extremely confident it was him, wearing a parka jacket that went down to his bum, having seen his picture in a newspaper and tv interview. What are the chances of seeing someone similar looking to LM on the same road in a tiny area/settlement where LM lived at that time on that day? None. Simple as that. It's absurd reasoning to suggest it was a LM lookalike.

What on earth are you talking about ,Mr Apples? Luke never denied standing on Newbattle Rd waiting for Jodi. Of course the witnesses saw him, but more likely than not in his Bomber Jacket.

[faithlilly]

Went home, quickly briefed his mother, quickly rinsed his body in upstairs shower, quickly changed clothes and back out to meet the boys in the abbey. The timings for their meeting at the abbey aren't exact, even in the transcripts. Likewise, the pushbike boys' recollections on what LM was wearing at 1755/1800; one said a German army shirt sold in Flip (which I think LM was wearing underneath his parka) and one of the others said possibly a bomber jacket, but said he could be mistaken because he had often seen LM wearing said bomber jacket in school. It's messy. There's no doubt LM was on the NB rd between 1755-1820 as 2 boys whe knew him positively identified him. Lf, RW & ch didn't know him and were extremely confident it was him, wearing a parka jacket that went down to his bum, having seen his picture in a newspaper and tv interview. What are the chances of seeing someone similar looking to LM on the same road in a tiny area/settlement where LM lived at that time on that day? None. Simple as that. It's absurd reasoning to suggest it was a LM lookalike.

I can’t do anything but shake my head. You are determined not to follow the evidence but to make up your own so who am I to stop you.

[Kenmair]

You have no idea what work I’ve been doing on behalf of wrongfully convicted individuals.

I’m sure Luke’s family have their reasons for their silence. Perhaps they’ve seen how Corrine has been treated by individuals such as yourself and decided to stay in the background.

You keep brewing that hatred sweetie. It will rot your insides though.

I know exactly why the Mitchell's have remained silent as I live nearby. They deliberately ex-communicated CM after a year or so and have no contact since. I've never met CM but she comes across as wholly untrustworthy in interviews/podcasts, desperate to shift the blame and often getting basic facts wrong like in the J English car crash interview where she contradicted herself numerous times.

No hatred from me hen - I'll keep calling out chancers and fraudsters like you and JB Lean.

[faithlilly]

Ha ha! Thats exactly what I was thinking, Faith!
Poor Ken is definately going to end up with ulcers if he doesn't calm down a bit, poor chap.

I spoke to Michael Hickey’s mum many years ago at a meeting of Liberty and she was confronted often with the same hatred displayed towards Corrine often on this page. Of course her son was convicted of killing a child. He didn’t of course and had his conviction was eventually quashed. Only his mother campaigned for him, no other family.

You’d think that we’d learn.