German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.

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It depends on who you ask. The tourists who hitched a ride in his campervan had no idea he was a sex offender & they probably thought he was a nice guy. Anyway, I don’t care what you have to say about him. I really like him.

Yeah, and loads of people liked Ted Bundy, I expect you have pin-ups of him on your wall too.  What is your point?

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The level of defamation is different in the two cases. Murder is a worse stain on one's reputation than panicking after an accident & shoving your 3 year old body in a freezer imo

There aren’t grades of defamation as far as the law is concerned.  You’ve either been defamed or you haven’t. 

[kizzy]

You don't want it to be him as it would mean the McCann's are innocent [which they are].   You so don't want to be wrong that you are willing to want CB let out on the streets.  No child will be safe.  Everything points to him being the person who abducted Madeleine. 

A 'dangerous psychopathic sadist' in 'the absolute top league of dangerousness': The shocking assessment of Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner by his horrified psychologist

The shocking assessment of Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner by his horrified psychologist

So what does that have to do with him being involved with abducting Maddie.

CB is not going to come out of this smelling of roses ...everyone knows what he is.

FF who is defending him would not let him look after his dog ...but he is defending him

He knows a lot more about him warts and all more than any one ...yet believes he is not the abductor or involved with Maddie.

[Wonderfulspam]

Yeah, and loads of people liked Ted Bundy, I expect you have pin-ups of him on your wall too.  What is your point?

My point is his reputation will be different depending on who you ask. Those that didn't know he molested some children over twenty years ago probably thought he was a nice guy. He was popular with the girls by most accounts. Strange that they chose to enter into relationships with him, given his reputation?

[Vertigo Swirl]

How do you know that the parents didn’t play a part in Madeleine’s disappearance? Martin Smith not only thought he saw a man with Madeleine in his arms he named him as being Gerry. Then there’s the Gaspar statement of nefarious behaviour between Gerry and David Payne describing child abuse.

The Gaspar statement did not describe any nefarious behaviour by Gerry, are you trying to imply otherwise?

[Vertigo Swirl]

The shocking assessment of Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner by his horrified psychologist

So what does that have to do with him being involved with abducting Maddie.

CB is not going to come out of this smelling of roses ...everyone knows what he is.

FF who is defending him would not let him look after his dog ...but he is defending him

He knows a lot more about him warts and all more than any one ...yet believes he is not the abductor or involved with Maddie.

FF is Bruckner’s lawyer.  Professionally speaking he HAS to believe him.  I think FF said he would be ok with CB looking after his dog btw, just not his kids.  How very defamatory of him to say that!

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My point is his reputation will be different depending on who you ask. Those that didn't know he molested some children over twenty years ago probably thought he was a nice guy. He was popular with the girls by most accounts. Strange that they chose to enter into relationships with him, given his reputation?

Yes, and some people probably still think Ted Bundy was a nice guy who was a big hit with the ladies, so what?

[kizzy]

You have a short memory Kizzy.  May I draw your attention to reply 221 on this thread where you attempted to score a silly point by highlighting my typo.  I was merely illustrating how irritating it is when people do that, hopefully you understand that now though I’m not holding my breath as your comprehension skills leave a lot to be desired imo.
HCW is the opposite of willing to let a child murderer back on the streets, that’s what the last 4 years have been about.  But if the burden of proof is insufficient to bring a successful case against the suspect then there’s not much he can do about it is there, short of manufacturing evidence against him, which I’m sure you wouldn’t want him to do, eh?

Oh do grow up.........seems I didn't attempt to score a silly point ...I did.

Just to let you know ..you havent

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Oh do grow up.........seems I didn't attempt to score a silly point ...I did.

Just to let you know ..you havent

Jesus wept. Talk about childish.

[Wonderfulspam]

Anyway. The main thing is he will one day be released, before Wolters ever gets around with charging him, and if that annoys McCann supporters it can only be a good thing imo

[Vertigo Swirl]

Anyway. The main thing is he will one day be released, before Wolters ever gets around with charging him, and if that annoys McCann supporters it can only be a good thing imo

I won’t be annoyed but I will be concerned for the safety of any children who happen to cross his path in future.  As someone on this forum once said he’s undoubtedly a danger to women and girls.

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I won’t be annoyed but I will be concerned for the safety of any children who happen to cross his path in future.  As someone on this forum once said he’s undoubtedly a danger to women and girls.

He doesn't appear to be a danger to men & boys though. Which proves he's only half bad.

[kizzy]

FF is Bruckner’s lawyer.  Professionally speaking he HAS to believe him.  I think FF said he would be ok with CB looking after his dog btw, just not his kids.  How very defamatory of him to say that!

FF doesnt have to believe CB ...he has to defend him ....seems to be doing a very good job though in believing in him as being innocent.

In his final remarks today, Brueckner's defence attorney Friedrich Fuelscher heavily criticised key witness Busching, calling him a liar and accusing him of fabricating stories to gain attention,

Mr Fuelscher criticised the courts at Braunschweig regional court, saying: "There is no evidence at all which supports what he said."

Brueckner, who has maintained a stoic presence throughout his eight-month trial, was seen sitting still next to his lawyer, dressed in the same grey blazer. Mr Fuelscher expressed to the judges: "This trial should never have taken place."

He added, "If it was any other person, then on the basis of the evidence it would never have come to trial. The day has long passed whereby we lock away people based on them and not their crime."

He asserted that prosecutors are "trying to influence the opinion of the public".

He is right though  prosecutors are trying to influence the opinion of the public. you it seems a prime example.

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FF doesnt have to believe CB ...he has to defend him ....seems to be doing a very good job though in believing in him as being innocent.

In his final remarks today, Brueckner's defence attorney Friedrich Fuelscher heavily criticised key witness Busching, calling him a liar and accusing him of fabricating stories to gain attention,

Mr Fuelscher criticised the courts at Braunschweig regional court, saying: "There is no evidence at all which supports what he said."

Brueckner, who has maintained a stoic presence throughout his eight-month trial, was seen sitting still next to his lawyer, dressed in the same grey blazer. Mr Fuelscher expressed to the judges: "This trial should never have taken place."

He added, "If it was any other person, then on the basis of the evidence it would never have come to trial. The day has long passed whereby we lock away people based on them and not their crime."

He asserted that prosecutors are "trying to influence the opinion of the public".

He is right though  prosecutors are trying to influence the opinion of the public. you it seems a prime example.

There is nothing there about FF’s beliefs regarding CB’s innocence one way or the other.  We do know however that he believes CB to be a danger to children.  If I am a prime example of someone influenced by HCW then you are a prime example of someone who has been influenced by Amaral.

[jassi]

Anyway. The main thing is he will one day be released, before Wolters ever gets around with charging him, and if that annoys McCann supporters it can only be a good thing imo