German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.

[faithlilly]

It’s worth repeating some of her evidence here, to remind ourselves what she went through and how convinced she was that her assailant was sat in court opposite her.

“When you spend time in a situation like that with a person and there’s nothing else you can see on this human except their eyes, it’s the only thing you can remember. They bored into my skull. I’ll never forget it,” she said. She added that she thought the effect of her attacker’s eyes was intensified by the fact that otherwise he was completely dressed in black.

“They were just so blue … everything so dark … they were like lights, they were so bright. I just know them,” she said.

She said she suffered from recurring post-traumatic stress disorder and frequent panic attacks as a result of the assault. The court was shown pictures of scars on the backs of her legs that remain to this day, from where she was tied with rope to a breakfast bar during the prolonged attack at the flat where she lived.

She also said she still bled from wounds received during the violent attack.

Her attacker had been masked and was covered head to toe in a leotard-style body suit of about 60-denier thickness, and wore leather, or fake leather, gloves, she said, adding that only his eyes had been visible.

He spoke to her in English, in what she said was a German accent.

Over two days, Behan told the court in graphic detail how she was repeatedly raped, whipped and tied up in her apartment, the attacker filming the ordeal on a camera he had set up on top of the television in her room. The attacker threatened her, saying: “If you scream, I’ll kill you.” At one point she said she feared she would be beheaded after he wielded a knife at her.“

So, somewhere in the Algarve is a violent German rapist with piercing blue eyes who likes to enter women’s homes, dressed in a mask to inflict torture on his victims, who also videos his attacks but who ISN’T the German rapist with piercing blue eyes who committed a very similar rape on an American woman and who was seen committing other similar rapes on a video by witnesses whose testimony helped bring him to justice.
How utterly incredible.

As I have said before how very sad, if it was Brueckner who raped Hazel, and she seems convinced that it was, that she will never now receive any kind of justice and that her attacker will more than likely gain his freedom in September. Why did the German prosecutors think it was appropriate to lump her brutal attack in with two rapes cases that there is no evidence actually happened and rested solely on the testimony of two career criminals and liars? How awful.

[Vertigo Swirl]

As I have said before how very sad, if it was Brueckner who raped Hazel, and she seems convinced that it was, that she will never now receive any kind of justice and that her attacker will more than likely gain his freedom in September. Why did the German prosecutors think it was appropriate to lump her brutal attack in with two rapes cases that there is no evidence actually happened and rested solely on the testimony of two career criminals and liars? How awful.

How would you have dealt with it then? Relied solely on her testimony alone with no reference whatsoever to any other rapes committed by her alleged assailant or to the video footage seen by the career criminals which by some miraculous coincidence closely mirrored her own experience?  Do you think that would have resulted in a successful conviction?
You’ve yet to explain how the men managed to make up the video tape which closely mirrored both her rape and the American woman’s rape btw.  I guess you simply don’t have an answer for that.  Could it be that they weren’t lying, or is that explanation too obvious?

[faithlilly]

How would you have dealt with it then? Relied solely on her testimony alone with no reference whatsoever to any other rapes committed by her alleged assailant or to the video footage seen by the career criminals which by some miraculous coincidence closely mirrored her own experience?  Do you think that would have resulted in a successful conviction?
You’ve yet to explain how the men managed to make up the video tape which closely mirrored both her rape and the American woman’s rape btw.  I guess you simply don’t have an answer for that.  Could it be that they weren’t lying, or is that explanation too obvious?

Well the way that was chosen certainly didn’t work, did it?

As to your second question Busching and Seyferth certainly didn’t convince the judge that a tape existed and they must have had before them much more information than we are privy to.

[sadie]

Well the way that was chosen certainly didn’t work, did it?

As to your second question Busching and Seyferth certainly didn’t convince the judge that a tape existed and they must have had before them much more information than we are privy to.

Who was The Judge ?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well the way that was chosen certainly didn’t work, did it?

As to your second question Busching and Seyferth certainly didn’t convince the judge that a tape existed and they must have had before them much more information than we are privy to.

So, no clue as to how to bring a successful prosecution in HB’s case then, well that’s a surprise.  I doubt you will answer this but do you at least concede that without the Germans’ efforts HB’s chances of justice were precisely zero, given the PJ’s complete lack of interest in investigating the case properly?
The fact of the matter is that irrespective of the video tape evidence the judge was clearly not convinced by HB’s testimony otherwise a guilty verdict would have been reached so how is it HCW’s fault that she did not receive justice?  I’d have liked the judge to explain in their summing up what you clearly can’t and that is how the two witnesses described rapes that closely mirrored at least two other rapes known to have occurred, one of which was found to have been committed by the accused in an earlier trial and for which he has repeatedly been refused an appeal. 

[faithlilly]

So, no clue as to how to bring a successful prosecution in HB’s case then, well that’s a surprise.  I doubt you will answer this but do you at least concede that without the Germans’ efforts HB’s chances of justice were precisely zero, given the PJ’s complete lack of interest in investigating the case properly?
The fact of the matter is that irrespective of the video tape evidence the judge was clearly not convinced by HB’s testimony otherwise a guilty verdict would have been reached so how is it HCW’s fault that she did not receive justice?  I’d have liked the judge to explain in their summing up what you clearly can’t and that is how the two witnesses described rapes that closely mirrored at least two other rapes known to have occurred, one of which was found to have been committed by the accused in an earlier trial and for which he has repeatedly been refused an appeal.

I think Hazel Behan was badly let down by both the Portuguese and the German judicial system.

There was evidence presented by Busching and Seyferth that obviously the judge felt didn’t hold up once scrutinised. I believe they also changed their story. Of course to understand the judge’s reasoning we’d have to have full access to all the information she had. I read that an English bar owner also saw the tape. If this is true why wasn’t he brought to court?

[Vertigo Swirl]

I think Hazel Behan was badly let down by both the Portuguese and the German judicial system.

There was evidence presented by Busching and Seyferth that obviously the judge felt didn’t hold up once scrutinised. I believe they also changed their story. Of course to understand the judge’s reasoning we’d have to have full access to all the information she had. I read that an English bar owner also saw the tape. If this is true why wasn’t he brought to court?

The judge’s main reason seems to be that none of the witnesses could be trusted because of the bad publicity surrounding CB because of his alleged involvement in the Madeleine case.  However, as he had already been apprehended and identified in at least one of the cases against him before his name and face were in the public domain I don’t think this argument holds water.  It certainly doesn’t hold water in the playground incident case, nor the rapes of the unknown women.  I can’t remember the circumstances by which HB came to recognise CB as her attacker - was it before or after the 2020 press revelations? 
Furthermore, if it was deemed CB could not receive a fair trial because of all the adverse publicity beforehand why did these cases ever go to trial in the first place?

[faithlilly]

The judge’s main reason seems to be that none of the witnesses could be trusted because of the bad publicity surrounding CB because of his alleged involvement in the Madeleine case.  However, as he had already been apprehended and identified in at least one of the cases against him before his name and face were in the public domain I don’t think this argument holds water.  It certainly doesn’t hold water in the playground incident case, nor the rapes of the unknown women.  I can’t remember the circumstances by which HB came to recognise CB as her attacker - was it before or after the 2020 press revelations? 
Furthermore, if it was deemed CB could not receive a fair trial because of all the adverse publicity beforehand why did these cases ever go to trial in the first place?

The case for at least two of the rapes rested solely on the word of two career criminals, criminals who had a track record of lying. Miss Behan was collateral damage I’m afraid.

I’m not sure why you are banging the drum for two low lives who, if the tape actually existed, kept the knowledge of two rapes to themselves denying those victims justice and, if Brueckner did abduct Madeleine, a child of her future. Absolutely abhorrent.

[Vertigo Swirl]

The case for at least two of the rapes rested solely on the word of two career criminals, criminals who had a track record of lying. Miss Behan was collateral damage I’m afraid.

I’m not sure why you are banging the drum for two low lives who, if the tape actually existed, kept the knowledge of two rapes to themselves denying those victims justice and, if Brueckner did abduct Madeleine, a child of her future. Absolutely abhorrent.

Perhaps you could point out what part of my post represents “banging a drum for two low lives”?  I didn’t even mention them in my post! The drum I am banging is the drum of logical thought which sadly seems to elude you.  If the tape never existed you would need to explain
1) how the two low lives were able to describe rape scenarios which closely matched descriptions of actual rapes hitherto unknown to them.
2) Why it was that DNA of the rapist they identified in the video was found in one of the victim’s beds.

Are you preferring to believe that these are simply two phenomenal coincidences rather than accept the possibity (ney probability) that two criminal lowlives actually did see such a tape?  Does the massive coincidence explanation sit better with you because it suits your agenda better?  And can you actually make a post which responds to this point without resorting to emotive deflection for the umpteenth time? Look, I’ll help you out.  Yes these two witnesses were abhorrent and should have come forward sooner but if Madeleine was abducted and abused by CB then it’s highly unlikely she had a future to rob by time CB allegedly got round to bragging to them about his exploits.  So, leaving that point to one side, kindly explain why if the tape never existed it closely matched two rapes in the Algarve that we know occurred and how the lowlives were able to identify the rapist prior to his DNA being identified as being present in the victim’s bed. 

[faithlilly]

Perhaps you could point out what part of my post represents “banging a drum for two low lives”?  I didn’t even mention them in my post! The drum I am banging is the drum of logical thought which sadly seems to elude you.  If the tape never existed you would need to explain
1) how the two low lives were able to describe rape scenarios which closely matched descriptions of actual rapes hitherto unknown to them.
2) Why it was that DNA of the rapist they identified in the video was found in one of the victim’s beds.

Are you preferring to believe that these are simply two phenomenal coincidences rather than accept the possibity (ney probability) that two criminal lowlives actually did see such a tape?  Does the massive coincidence explanation sit better with you because it suits your agenda better?  And can you actually make a post which responds to this point without resorting to emotive deflection for the umpteenth time? Look, I’ll help you out.  Yes these two witnesses were abhorrent and should have come forward sooner but if Madeleine was abducted and abused by CB then it’s highly unlikely she had a future to rob by time CB allegedly got round to bragging to them about his exploits.  So, leaving that point to one side, kindly explain why if the tape never existed it closely matched two rapes in the Algarve that we know occurred and how the lowlives were able to identify the rapist prior to his DNA being identified as being present in the victim’s bed.

Is it churlish of me to point out to you that Busching and Seyferth allegedly found the tape around 2006? If they had gone with it immediately to the police then Brueckner would have been off the streets of PDL and unable to abduct anyone let alone Madeleine.

Of course if either Busching or Seyferth had committed the rape of Diane Menkes themselves then that would be an explanation why they knew the details and also how Brueckner’s just one hair found its way into Menkes bed, transference. I’m not saying that this is what happened but it is at least possible. Was the pair ever forensically tested for elimination purposes? Aren’t Seyferth and Busching German too?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Is it churlish of me to point out to you that Busching and Seyferth allegedly found the tape around 2006? If they had gone with it immediately to the police then Brueckner would have been off the streets of PDL and unable to abduct anyone let alone Madeleine.

Of course if either Busching or Seyferth had committed the rape of Diane Menkes themselves then that would be an explanation why they knew the details and also how Brueckner’s just one hair found its way into Menkes bed, transference. I’m not saying that this is what happened but it is at least possible. Was the pair ever forensically tested for elimination purposes? Aren’t Seyferth and Busching German too?

It would be odd to commit such rapes, tell your mate all about them and then draw attention to yourself by going to the police about them many years later don’t you think?  Indeed, why drag your mate into it at all (who could dob you in it) unless you’re suggesting they were both committing separate rapes in a similar fashion? If they wanted to frame CB for a rape that had actually happened why not describe details of a video of the HB or DM rapes then?  And how does one of them manage to rape DM and leave behind no trace of themselves but a trace of someone apparently unconnected instead?  I think one or both men are German (not sure) but does either have a history of sex crime convictions like Bruckner?  I mean it’s a valiant attempt at an alternative theory on your part but I  doubt the police could be that stupid as to not consider the possibility themselves or fail to discount it through investigation and elimination.  Is all this more likely than they were actually telling the truth (or their version of it) about what they saw on the tape? 

[faithlilly]

It would be odd to commit such rapes, tell your mate all about them and then draw attention to yourself by going to the police about them many years later don’t you think?  Indeed, why drag your mate into it at all (who could dob you in it) unless you’re suggesting they were both committing separate rapes in a similar fashion? If they wanted to frame CB for a rape that had actually happened why not describe details of a video of the HB or DM rapes then?  And how does one of them manage to rape DM and leave behind no trace of themselves but a trace of someone apparently unconnected instead?  I think one or both men are German (not sure) but does either have a history of sex crime convictions like Bruckner?  I mean it’s a valiant attempt at an alternative theory on your part but I  doubt the police could be that stupid as to not consider the possibility themselves or fail to discount it through investigation and elimination.  Is all this more likely than they were actually telling the truth (or their version of it) about what they saw on the tape?

Who knows what they have on each other that would necessitate silence.

Further who knows what crimes Busching and Seyferth have been convicted of or what crimes they have committed without detection.

Do you really think that if the police are given a perpetrator on a plate they will look deeply at their source? Is there any evidence that the police did?

As to the pair’s credibility, a few snippets from the trial.

‘ During extensive questioning by the judge and the defendant's lawyer, Seyferth repeatedly claimed to not remember crucial details. His testimony also diverged from statements given at a trial in 2019, which saw Christian B be convicted of rape.’

And.

‘During cross-examination of the witness, which went on for over three hours, the defence accused Seyferth of having memory loss and continually changing his statement.
In particular, they highlighted that he had made money from press interviews and previously said the older woman was ‘around 40’, but now she was in her 60s.’

[Vertigo Swirl]

Who knows what they have on each other that would necessitate silence.

Further who knows what crimes Busching and Seyferth have been convicted of or what crimes they have committed without detection.

Do you really think that if the police are given a perpetrator on a plate they will look deeply at their source? Is there any evidence that the police did?

As to the pair’s credibility, a few snippets from the trial.

‘ During extensive questioning by the judge and the defendant's lawyer, Seyferth repeatedly claimed to not remember crucial details. His testimony also diverged from statements given at a trial in 2019, which saw Christian B be convicted of rape.’

And.

‘During cross-examination of the witness, which went on for over three hours, the defence accused Seyferth of having memory loss and continually changing his statement.
In particular, they highlighted that he had made money from press interviews and previously said the older woman was ‘around 40’, but now she was in her 60s.’

Can I ask - are you now of the opinion that CB probably didn’t rape Hazel Behan after all and actually poses no threat to women?  You seem to have done something of a 180 on this in recent days.  In fact one could say you’re banging a drum for a career criminal who has convictions for rape and child abuse. 

[Vertigo Swirl]

Who knows what they have on each other that would necessitate silence.

Further who knows what crimes Busching and Seyferth have been convicted of or what crimes they have committed without detection.

Do you really think that if the police are given a perpetrator on a plate they will look deeply at their source? Is there any evidence that the police did?

As to the pair’s credibility, a few snippets from the trial.

‘ During extensive questioning by the judge and the defendant's lawyer, Seyferth repeatedly claimed to not remember crucial details. His testimony also diverged from statements given at a trial in 2019, which saw Christian B be convicted of rape.’

And.

‘During cross-examination of the witness, which went on for over three hours, the defence accused Seyferth of having memory loss and continually changing his statement.
In particular, they highlighted that he had made money from press interviews and previously said the older woman was ‘around 40’, but now she was in her 60s.’

BIB.  Yes I do.  If I went to the police and said I once saw you in a video holding a “Death To All Jews” placard at a Pro Palestine march I think they might want a little bit more evidence than that and to check out if I had had any previous acrimonious dealings with you don’t you?

[faithlilly]

Can I ask - are you now of the opinion that CB probably didn’t rape Hazel Behan after all and actually poses no threat to women?  You seem to have done something of a 180 on this in recent days.  In fact one could say you’re banging a drum for a career criminal who has convictions for rape and child abuse.

I said that Hazel Behan believes that Brueckner raped her.