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Offline The General

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.
« Reply #345 on: January 27, 2025, 10:53:19 AM »
Charged?  With what?
Occulation of a corpse, failing to report a death, wasting police time, perverting the course of justice, fraud, obtaining monies by deception, false representation, coercive behaviour. I don't know if he would have been charged with any of these, but if sufficient evidence was obtained, and that must've been a close run thing, then who knows.
A bit like CB being charged with kidnap, rape, murder if sufficient evidence was available.

Which leads me to my next revelation: there's more circumstantial evidence in relation to GM and KM being involved than in relation to CB.
Couple that with the same for forensic evidence and we have quite a compelling state of affairs.
Subject Matter Expert - Hobos.

Offline Lace

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.
« Reply #346 on: January 27, 2025, 10:56:30 AM »
In fairness it happened twice. If you read her statement she was deffo worried and took action. She thought he ight be a nonce and she told her husband to supervise bath time. So there's that.

So he repeated what he had done.  Sounds to me that he wasn't at all worried about anyone seeing him.  The first time with them all sat around the table with Mrs Gaspar between them.  She admitted she didn't know what their conversation had been about. So was David Payne showing signs of Paedophilia not only in front of Mrs Gaspar but in front of all who sat at the table.  Plus he did it again later on.  Also she only thought it was David who was showing an act of Paedophilia nothing about Gerry who was conversing with him!!  Come on please.

Offline Lace

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.
« Reply #347 on: January 27, 2025, 10:58:53 AM »
Occulation of a corpse, failing to report a death, wasting police time, perverting the course of justice, fraud, obtaining monies by deception, false representation, coercive behaviour. I don't know if he would have been charged with any of these, but if sufficient evidence was obtained, and that must've been a close run thing, then who knows.
A bit like CB being charged with kidnap, rape, murder if sufficient evidence was available.

Which leads me to my next revelation: there's more circumstantial evidence in relation to GM and KM being involved than in relation to CB.
Couple that with the same for forensic evidence and we have quite a compelling state of affairs.


What evidence?  Gerry and Kate were eating dinner laughing and joking with friends.  When are they supposed to have disposed of a body?  Before dinner?  Then sit and laugh as usual with their friends?

Offline faithlilly

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckne
« Reply #348 on: January 27, 2025, 11:03:18 AM »
Why did her husband disagree with her?

He certainly saw the gesture and found it ‘distasteful’. Why he didn’t hear what his wife heard? Perhaps he was too far away?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.
« Reply #349 on: January 27, 2025, 11:05:04 AM »
In fairness it happened twice. If you read her statement she was deffo worried and took action. She thought he ight be a nonce and she told her husband to supervise bath time. So there's that.

But she didn't insist on leaving.

Offline faithlilly

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.
« Reply #350 on: January 27, 2025, 11:05:36 AM »
Well to spell it out.  Babies circle the mothers nipple with their finger sometimes when breast feeding and make the gesture of feeding putting their finger in their mouths.

Were any of their children breastfeeding?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckne
« Reply #351 on: January 27, 2025, 11:09:00 AM »
He certainly saw the gesture and found it ‘distasteful’. Why he didn’t hear what his wife heard? Perhaps he was too far away?

Across a dinner table?  But then even she didn't know what they were talking about, despite sitting between them.

Offline Lace

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.
« Reply #352 on: January 27, 2025, 11:09:47 AM »
Were any of their children breastfeeding?

I don't know.  What do you think he was imitating?

Offline Lace

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckne
« Reply #353 on: January 27, 2025, 11:10:38 AM »
He certainly saw the gesture and found it ‘distasteful’. Why he didn’t hear what his wife heard? Perhaps he was too far away?

Distasteful not Paedophilia then.

Offline faithlilly

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.
« Reply #354 on: January 27, 2025, 11:11:16 AM »
So he repeated what he had done.  Sounds to me that he wasn't at all worried about anyone seeing him.  The first time with them all sat around the table with Mrs Gaspar between them.  She admitted she didn't know what their conversation had been about. So was David Payne showing signs of Paedophilia not only in front of Mrs Gaspar but in front of all who sat at the table.  Plus he did it again later on.  Also she only thought it was David who was showing an act of Paedophilia nothing about Gerry who was conversing with him!!  Come on please.

This is what she said that their conversation was about.

“ I was seated between Dave and Gerry who I believe were both speaking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling Gerry something like "she", referring to Madeleine, "would do this".
When he mentioned "this", Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it inside and outside his mouth, while with the other hand he made a circle around his nipple, in a circulatory movement over his clothes. This was done in a provocative manner and carried an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing.”
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Lace

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.
« Reply #355 on: January 27, 2025, 11:12:03 AM »
Mrs Gaspar said she thought he must have been watching Porn!!  Doesn't say much for her does it.  Who automatically jumps to that conclusion.

Offline Eleanor

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.
« Reply #356 on: January 27, 2025, 11:12:11 AM »
Were any of their children breastfeeding?

What has that got to do with it. Recent memories probably.

Offline Eleanor

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.
« Reply #357 on: January 27, 2025, 11:15:27 AM »
This is what she said that their conversation was about.

“ I was seated between Dave and Gerry who I believe were both speaking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling Gerry something like "she", referring to Madeleine, "would do this".
When he mentioned "this", Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it inside and outside his mouth, while with the other hand he made a circle around his nipple, in a circulatory movement over his clothes. This was done in a provocative manner and carried an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing.”

Provocative Manner?  How did she know that?

Offline Lace

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.
« Reply #358 on: January 27, 2025, 11:15:49 AM »
This is what she said that their conversation was about.

“ I was seated between Dave and Gerry who I believe were both speaking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling Gerry something like "she", referring to Madeleine, "would do this".
When he mentioned "this", Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it inside and outside his mouth, while with the other hand he made a circle around his nipple, in a circulatory movement over his clothes. This was done in a provocative manner and carried an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing.”

So why didn't she say 'what was that all about'.   No she jumped to conclusions when Madeleine disappeared.  Amaral made all of this public,  in order to accuse David of being a Paedophile.  Even his wife called him a Paedophile.  Maybe he should have been questioning the real Paedophile.  It was investigated and nothing came of it which shows it was nothing but a built uo scenario by Amaral

Offline faithlilly

Re: German Prosecutor has no plans to charge Christian Bruckner.
« Reply #359 on: January 27, 2025, 11:19:29 AM »
I don't know.  What do you think he was imitating?

It’s obvious that Katerina Gaspar believed that the gesture was disturbing enough to report to the police. Why she didn’t do it at the time? Perhaps she was cowardly and put her friendship with the parents above taking action. Perhaps she thought she had too little evidence to report it? She certainly made sure that her daughter wasn’t alone with Payne again so that says a lot.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?