Lucy Letby

[Joe Blogs]

No I've changed my mind now. I won't do what you tell me. I'm going to sit here with my arms folded & a stern look on my face until justice is served. I fully trust Ms Letby now, I think she should be welcomed back into the nursing profession with no supervision whatsoever.  She can run the children's ward & Brueckner can work in the creche. Ian Huntley can manage the children's bathtime & Harold Shipman can administer vaccinations.

Ha ha! Is this what you mean by massive WUM, Spam?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Ha ha! Is this what you mean by massive WUM, Spam?

He does try hard / is very trying (delete as applicable)

[Wonderfulspam]

Sorry. There hasn't been much to talk about lately & I've been getting withdrawal symptoms from not being silly

[Vertigo Swirl]

Sorry. There hasn't been much to talk about lately & I've been getting withdrawal symptoms from not being silly

Don?t worry, the Met have been reading your posts and come to their senses and be arresting and charging the McCanns, shouldn?t be long now.

[Wonderfulspam]

Don?t worry, the Met have been reading your posts and come to their senses and be arresting and charging the McCanns, shouldn?t be long now.

There isn't enough evidence. But I still wouldn't trust the McCanns as babysitters. It seems like too great a risk. Same as releasing Ms Letby & allowing her back to work.

[Vertigo Swirl]

There isn't enough evidence. But I still wouldn't trust the McCanns as babysitters. It seems like too great a risk. Same as releasing Ms Letby & allowing her back to work.

But Mr Smith?s evidence is cast iron proof no?  Wasn?t he pretty certain, and aren?t you even more certain than him even though you weren?t there?  What more do you need for a successful conviction?  As for Letby even if she?s as innocent as a new born I very much doubt she would choose to go back into a professional environment that would appear to have stitched her up good and proper.  Like Bruckner (if she is ever released) she will be able to run away to some remote tropical paradise and live off the compo and the endless media interviews and book / film offers.

[Vertigo Swirl]

An interesting bar chart at the beginning of this article.  If Letby hadn?t ?murdered? all those babies then presumably the COCH hospital would have shown up in the stats as having one of the better records for neonatal care, this despite the fact that there were obviously failings in practice there irrespective of the LL case

https://triedbystats.com/

[Joe Blogs]

An interesting bar chart at the beginning of this article.  If Letby hadn?t ?murdered? all those babies then presumably the COCH hospital would have shown up in the stats as having one of the better records for neonatal care, this despite the fact that there were obviously failings in practice there irrespective of the LL case

https://triedbystats.com/

Did you watch Panorama, Vertigo?
Have we problems with the insulin and the amount of dislodged breathing tubes at the Liverpool hospital?

[Vertigo Swirl]

Did you watch Panorama, Vertigo?
Have we problems with the insulin and the amount of dislodged breathing tubes at the Liverpool hospital?

Yes we did watch it, and yes it was very balanced we thought.  It seems no one really knows what went on and proves the point that you can find an expert to prove anything you need depending on your point of view.  That being the case we think the conviction is unsafe and that her guilt was not proven beyond reasonable doubt.

[Joe Blogs]

Yes we did watch it, and yes it was very balanced we thought.  It seems no one really knows what went on and proves the point that you can find an expert to prove anything you need depending on your point of view.  That being the case we think the conviction is unsafe and that her guilt was not proven beyond reasonable doubt.

Well as I said, the two most damaging points in the prog for Letby was the claim by one expert that the insulin must have been injected and the other being the number of tubes being dislodged while Letby was on duty at the Liverpool hospital, although some are claiming on X that this is another case of the statistics being manipulated.
I dont know! Its definately a case for the experts to battle out, Vertigo! I see the chief prosecution witness is still adamant that Letby is guilty. I remain on the fence, and await further developments.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well as I said, the two most damaging points in the prog for Letby was the claim by one expert that the insulin must have been injected and the other being the number of tubes being dislodged while Letby was on duty at the Liverpool hospital, although some are claiming on X that this is another case of the statistics being manipulated.
I dont know! Its definately a case for the experts to battle out, Vertigo! I see the chief prosecution witness is still adamant that Letby is guilty. I remain on the fence, and await further developments.

I think the fact that the chief prosecution witness completely changed his mind after the trial about how one of the babies was a apparently murdered is extremely problematic.  I thought so e of his respinses to questions on last night?s programme showed him to be rather arrogant and a bit shifty tbh.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Well as I said, the two most damaging points in the prog for Letby was the claim by one expert that the insulin must have been injected and the other being the number of tubes being dislodged while Letby was on duty at the Liverpool hospital, although some are claiming on X that this is another case of the statistics being manipulated.
I dont know! Its definately a case for the experts to battle out, Vertigo! I see the chief prosecution witness is still adamant that Letby is guilty. I remain on the fence, and await further developments.

Definitely a case of dodgy statistics on the Panorama programme
https://www.reddit.com/r/LucyLetbyTrials/comments/1hr7mkm/the_40_dislodgment_rate_from_lucy_letbys_time_at/

[wullie2]

I am a victim of a miscarriage of justice with two police officer committing perjury in court

[Vertigo Swirl]

I am a victim of a miscarriage of justice with two police officer committing perjury in court

Why don?t you start your own thread and tell us more about it there?

[Joe Blogs]

I am a victim of a miscarriage of justice with two police officer committing perjury in court

Welcome to the forum, Wullie, I am a relative newbie too.