The New Yorker magazine now claiming Bamber had an alibi?

[Vertigo Swirl]

The whole investigation was such a mess that I had trouble sorting out what was going on.  And of course, The Police were far too keen on stitching people up in those days.

This is definitely cause to reopen the Investigation,  In My Opinion.

But initially they were convinced it was a murder suicide and there would have been no need to pretend this alleged 6.09am call didn’t happen.  The house was surrounded by people all intent on discovering what was going on in it, yet none of them noticed the final shotgun blast?  Unlikely imo.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Could she have shot herself prior to this but not died immediately ?

Do you mean shot herself twice, then got up again to make a phonecall before returning to her final resting place to cradle the gun in her arms?

[Joe Blogs]

Could she have shot herself prior to this but not died immediately ?

Unlikely, Jassi, the blood would have run right down her body if she was standing and there was no trail of blood back up to the bedroom from the kitchen either.

[Joe Blogs]

But initially they were convinced it was a murder suicide and there would have been no need to pretend this alleged 6.09am call didn’t happen.  The house was surrounded by people all intent on discovering what was going on in it, yet none of them noticed the final shotgun blast?  Unlikely imo.

Remember it was a relatively quiet weapon even without the silencer, Vertigo, and Sheila shot herself upstairs at the far side of the bed in the main bedroom.

[Joe Blogs]

Why not?  The phone was supposedly left off the hook wasn’t it?

Think about it.  This alleged 6.09am phonecall would have been a massive piece of evidence.  Why does it not feature as an aspect of the early investigation before JB was even in the frame for the murders?  How did Milward manage not to mention this to any of his superiors when they were investigating the apparent murder / suicide committed by Sheila Bamber?  You might have thought he’d mention the fact that he’d taken a call from her to someone at some point, but no, it takes 17 years before this apparently enormous clue is revealed.

Yes, thats why everyone is skeptical at the moment before seeing/hearing the Milbank interview!

[Vertigo Swirl]

Remember it was a relatively quiet weapon even without the silencer, Vertigo, and Sheila shot herself upstairs at the far side of the bed in the main bedroom.

Relatively quiet compared to what? An AK47?  The house was surrounded by professionals on high alert for any signs of activity within and not one of them heard anything resembling a shotgun going off?   I don’t think that’s likely myself.  Even Bamber himself who would have been very familiar with the noise of that gun going off didn’t hear it.

[Joe Blogs]

Relatively quiet compared to what? An AK47?  The house was surrounded by professionals on high alert for any signs of activity within and not one of them heard anything resembling a shotgun going off?   I don’t think that’s likely myself.  Even Bamber himself who would have been very familiar with the noise of that gun going off didn’t hear it.

It was an Anschutz rifle and it fired little .22 bullets from a magazine. A shotgun to me is a weapon that fires cartridges with balls of shot inside.
JB wasn't allowed near the house, he was put into the barn for safety,
BUT!! The bedroom window in the main bedroom where Sheila was found was open three inches, so you may have a point, Vertigo!

[John]

If the police received a call at 6.09am then why didn't they attempt to enter the house at that point?

Yet it takes 17 years for this to be revealed, the whole thing sounds fishy to me.

[Vertigo Swirl]

If the police received a call at 6.09am then why didn't they attempt to enter the house at that point?

Yet it takes 17 years for this to be revealed, the whole thing sounds fishy to me.

Presumably because the person who took the call decided to keep it to themselves rather than inform their colleagues who were waiting outside the house at the time.

[The Equalizer]

Is this his new my Dad called the police, when it was two logs of West speaking to MB at HQIR. Is the 999 call in-fact the GPO switching the open house phone to the 999 system to HQIR so they could listen in. As stated in the logs at 06:06, so how could a 999 call be made on an open system that is being monitored ??

[adam]

Burrell's 1985 WS says Millbank took over the monitoring of the open line at WHF at 6.09am.

The New Yorker is twisting it to say Millbank took a call from WHF at 6.09am. The caller then not speaking.

Been dismissed by the CCRC  but has given The New Yorker publicity & got the CT excited again.

[John]

Burrell's 1985 WS says Millbank took over the monitoring of the open line at WHF at 6.09am.

The New Yorker is twisting it to say Millbank took a call from WHF at 6.09am. The caller then not speaking.

Been dismissed by the CCRC  but has given The New Yorker publicity & got the CT excited again.

I'm a bit rusty on the facts after so many years but I tend to agree.

[colsville]

I haven't read the New Yorker article, and have only scan read this thread.

but the common theme coming up again and again is the 6.09 phone call from WHF to emergency services (999)

But this fact is recorded on the phone logs where the open line in WHF which was being monitored by a BT operative from around 4:00 am, until 6:09, when the Police asked BT to divert the line to HQIR (999).

HQIR (999) stands for Headquarters Information room, and it's where 999 calls are received, and where emergencies are co-ordinated from.

This is clearly documented on 2 of the phone logs, both of which I believe are hosted on this website. 

Before I got banned from the Blue Forum, I stumbled across an old post from 2013 where Mike Tesko (I believe that was his name) had uploaded the witness statement of the police officer who instructed the divert on the line, and it was very clear in that statement that the 6:09 emergency call was executed when the BT engineer diverted the open line from WTF to HQIR (999)  so that the police could monitor it rather than the BT engineer (or as well as the BT engineer)

And that is backed up by the call logs that were written live as the situation unfolded on the night.

The New Yorker magazine will be in cahoots with Jeremy Bambers  Campaign team, and will have zero access to the official evidence held by the police.

Jeremy Bamber has in the past, via his legal representation and campaign team, created fake wet blood photos in his attempt to 'prove' that Sheila was still alive when the police entered the building.

So he has 40 years of experience in faking evidence from his police cell.

We know that anyone that supports Jeremy Bamber, including Peter Tatchell, tends to blindly repeat Jeremy Bambers lies, making them sound like the gospel truth.  But they are still lies.

The CCRC have access to all the evidence, and they will have all the witness statements from that time, and they will correctly interpret the entries on those call logs.

The BT staff who were involved will also have given statements and probably appeared as witnesses to.  That will all be available to the CCRC.

These are facts that cannot be denied.  They are written in stone and unmovable.  At least as far as the law is concerned.

The 6:09 call is just another Bamber lie, based on a nugget of truth.

[Vertigo Swirl]

Oh dear.  This does put rather a dent in the New Yorker’s credibility as a serious investigative journal.  Time to roll out the aga burns again and sweep the 6.09am 999 call under the carpet, nothing to see here…

[Joe Blogs]

Oh dear.  This does put rather a dent in the New Yorker’s credibility as a serious investigative journal.  Time to roll out the aga burns again and sweep the 6.09am 999 call under the carpet, nothing to see here…

Well lets just wait and see exactly what Milbank said in the interview before we attack anyone's credibility, Vertigo!
I thought about subscribing to the New Yorker to hear it right now, BUT!! Greed kept me allright there!