Eddie's alert in the garden

[Brietta]

from what i can conclude they were not asked to It does not seem to have been sent to a forensic lab it was sent to a university lab for carbon dating. The technician immediately realised it was not bone when he drilled it and the low level of nitrogen meant carbon dating was impossible

You too for off topic Davel ... I'm going to have to start deleting.  Garden, please.

[stephen25000]

deleted.

[Mr Gray]

I think you're perhaps misunderstanding Grimes role. Just like with the Renault alerts in Luz it wasn't his job to be involved in the forensic recovery of evidence. I wouldn't expect him to be even there when the digging took place, his job was done when Eddie alerted. The recovery was in other hands; the forensic anthropologist was the expert on things found. It was up to him/her to ask for screening of the found item if they thought it was necessary.

I think you are...Grime put the keyfob into a bucket of sand as I remember and the alert was confirmed. Having seen the shambles re the coconut I would suggest that items are checked as I suggested to save the time and money involved in the lab testing

[ferryman]

I think you are...Grime put the keyfob into a bucket of sand as I remember and the alert was confirmed. Having seen the shambles re the coconut I would suggest that items are checked as I suggested to save the time and money involved in the lab testing

This business of checking the same stuff twice in different locations was a precursor of the modus operandi Grime would later employ on a different continent (America) in the Bianca Jones case (where D'Lane was ultimately convicted of her murder).

Grime used PdL as a sort of 'trial run' for an occasion (and an investigation) of that sort (at the time of PdL, unknown).

Reverting back on-topic, the alert in the garden, I have seen it suggested that Eddie might have alerted to a pig-based manure, recently used to manure the garden.

Seems plausible ....

[stephen25000]

This business of checking the same stuff twice in different locations was a precursor of the modus operandi Grime would later employ on a different continent (America) in the Bianca Jones case (where D'Lane was ultimately convicted of her murder).

Grime used PdL as a sort of 'trial run' for an occasion (and an investigation) of that sort (at the time of PdL, unknown).

Reverting back on-topic, the alert in the garden, I have seen it suggested that Eddie might have alerted to a pig-based manure, recently used to manure the garden.

Seems plausible ....

Why is it plausible ?

Perhaps you can provide a cite for that and any evidence for the use of pig products in the garden.

[Brietta]

I think you are...Grime put the keyfob into a bucket of sand as I remember and the alert was confirmed. Having seen the shambles re the coconut I would suggest that items are checked as I suggested to save the time and money involved in the lab testing

The alert being confirmed by the further alert in the sand bucket in combination with no further alert to the Renault, proving the key was the source ... it was still sent off to forensics and it was established the alert was to cellular material.

I don't know if Keela was used in the garden, didn't see her in the video ... if she was not it suggests to me that Martin Grime was of the opinion that Eddie did not alert in the garden.
If he thought that he had alerted he would have brought Keela in as he did in the garage to check if  Eddie was alerting to blood which Keela would have homed in on.

It is my opinion that there was no alert in the garden.

[ferryman]

Why is it plausible ?

Perhaps you can provide a cite for that and any evidence for the use of pig products in the garden.

To spare the blushes of the dog.

We are looking for some reason (within the dog's scent-range, obviously nothing to do with Madeleine) that would account for the alert.

If there is nothing, the dog screwed up, just as the dog screwed up in alerting to a coconut at HdLG.

[Brietta]

To spare the blushes of the dog.

We are looking for some reason (within the dog's scent-range, obviously nothing to do with Madeleine) that would account for the alert.

If there is nothing, the dog screwed up, just as the dog screwed up in alerting to a coconut at HdLG.

I'm not sure he did screw up, Ferryman.

There is a forensic report regarding items from the garden in which the dog may or may not have shown an interest ... but did Martin Grime actually go further than what he said in the video about Eddie being interested and say he had alerted there.

If he did alert it wasn't backed up by forensics or Keela checking to see if he alerted to blood.

[ferryman]

I'm not sure he did screw up, Ferryman.

There is a forensic report regarding items from the garden in which the dog may or may not have shown an interest ... but did Martin Grime actually go further than what he said in the video about Eddie being interested and say he had alerted there.

If he did alert it wasn't backed up by forensics or Keela checking to see if he alerted to blood.

The standard protocol was (at least supposed to be) that stuff sent to the FSS was stuff alerted to by both dogs.

Was it not?

[Brietta]

The standard protocol was (at least supposed to be) that stuff sent to the FSS was stuff alerted to by both dogs.

Was it not?

In the verbal report by Martin Grime all I can find him saying is pretty much what we saw on the video ... I can't discover where the interest shown by the dog became an alert.

Does anyone have that reference?


Outside perimeter of apartments

We've searched the outer perimeter, there is some interest here but it will take some further examination to see what's going on.  Martin Grime
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm


He has summed up every other alert from both dogs ... why wouldn't he mention the garden one?

[ferryman]

In the verbal report by Martin Grime all I can find him saying is pretty much what we saw on the video ... I can't discover where the interest shown by the dog became an alert.

Does anyone have that reference?


Outside perimeter of apartments

We've searched the outer perimeter, there is some interest here but it will take some further examination to see what's going on.  Martin Grime
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm


He has summed up every other alert from both dogs ... why wouldn't he mention the garden one?

Again, you need to take stock of what they were looking for, which was Madeleine's blood.

(Minute) traces of Madeleine's blood in the garden would have been as innocuous as minute traces in the apartment (even Amaral understood that).

So what was the point of an inspection in the garden?

Perhaps, to look for a body, but then, if that was the suspicion, you'd have expected them to excavate the garden.

They didn't.

So why inspect the garden?

And why ignore the alert?

[pathfinder73]

In the verbal report by Martin Grime all I can find him saying is pretty much what we saw on the video ... I can't discover where the interest shown by the dog became an alert.

Does anyone have that reference?


Outside perimeter of apartments

We've searched the outer perimeter, there is some interest here but it will take some further examination to see what's going on.  Martin Grime
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm


He has summed up every other alert from both dogs ... why wouldn't he mention the garden one?

All the work performed was recorded on video in image and sound.

Between 21h49 and 22h00, in the garden adjacent to apartment 5A, accessible from by way of the veranada and steps, the cadaver dog alerted in a garden-bed directly below the veranda.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DOGS_INSPECTION.htm#2054

Initial conclusion.

To the coordinator of the criminal investigation.

Faced with new elements revealed by the dog handling unit's search, attached to the report, and on the basis of Mark Harrison's report, there is every reason to believe that the small child Madeleine McCann died in apartment 5A where she was spending her holiday with her parents at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz. Following the markings by the cadaver odour detecting dogs and traces of human blood inside the apartment from which the child disappeared, we have done further extensive research, revealing that there was never a death, or a body, notified in this same apartment before. In this report, several places were marked, signalling the presence of cadaver odour and human blood. In addition, we can observe that a cadaver odour was detected in the garden adjacent to apartment 5A. Nothing was detected in the other residences.

It follows from this investigation that there are indications, in practice and in the facts, of the crime of murder such as defined in ArticleQI310 of the Penal Code.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm

[Mr Gray]

All the work performed was recorded on video in image and sound.

Between 21h49 and 22h00, in the garden adjacent to apartment 5A, accessible from by way of the veranada and steps, the cadaver dog alerted in a garden-bed directly below the veranda.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DOGS_INSPECTION.htm#2054

Initial conclusion.

To the coordinator of the criminal investigation.

Faced with new elements revealed by the dog handling unit's search, attached to the report, and on the basis of Mark Harrison's report, there is every reason to believe that the small child Madeleine McCann died in apartment 5A where she was spending her holiday with her parents at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz. Following the markings by the cadaver odour detecting dogs and traces of human blood inside the apartment from which the child disappeared, we have done further extensive research, revealing that there was never a death, or a body, notified in this same apartment before. In this report, several places were marked, signalling the presence of cadaver odour and human blood. In addition, we can observe that a cadaver odour was detected in the garden adjacent to apartment 5A. Nothing was detected in the other residences.

It follows from this investigation that there are indications, in practice and in the facts, of the crime of murder such as defined in ArticleQI310 of the Penal Code.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm

thank you for bringing amaral's lies to the forum...no wonder he has found himself in so much trouble

[ferryman]

thank you for bringing amaral's lies to the forum...no wonder he has found himself in so much trouble

What pathfinder quotes was actually written by Joao Carlos and (although it appears in McCannpjfiles) is not a part of the official files.

Unsure how it got in there, but it isn't indexed.

Carolos (at that point), like far too many others, was duped and deceived by the antics of the dog-handler ....

[ferryman]

Here is the whole extract from what Pathfinder quotes.

My justification for quoting the whole is extract is to expose something scandalous and wicked; inclusion (in, supposedly, the 'official' files) of something unofficial and not part of the body of released files.

Note the give-away absence, no official file reference number:

TRANSLATED FROM FRENCH BY ANNA ESSE
 Inspection of the apartments.

Date: July 31st 2007 - 8pm. Report:

Participants:

PJ: Tavares A. & Ricardo P. Inspectors
UK: Mark Harrison, Martin Grime (UK Forensic Canine P SM Expert),
Eddie & Keela (English Springers)
Silvia B. Manager of the Ocean Club complex.

On that date, inspections were conducted in the apartments occupied by members of the McCann family as well as the group who were with them at the time of Madeleine McCann's disappearance. It was only on that date that the apartment, identified as that of the parents, was empty allowing further investigation which was authorised by the respective occupants. Thus, at the appointed time, the search with the dogs began, covering the following apartments:

5A:

From 8.30pm to 9.20pm, the dogs go through.
8.20pm: The cadaver dog, "marks," the couple's wardrobe area in the bedroom.
8.22pm: The cadaver dog, "marks" an area behind the sofa in the sitting room near the window overlooking the road.
From 8.47pm to 9.20pm, the blood detecting dog goes through.
8.10 (should it be 9.10?) The dog, "marks" an area of floor behind the sofa in the sitting room, near the window overlooking the road.

5B: 9.24 to 9.27pm: The cadaver dog did not alert on anything.

5D: 9.29 to 9.34pm: The cadaver dog did not alert on anything.

5H : 9.35 to 9.38pm : The cadaver dog did not alert on anything.

4G : 9.42 to 9.45pm : The cadaver dog did not alert on anything.

Garden belonging to apartment 5A (with access via the balcony and the steps):

9.49 to 10pm: The cadaver dog "marks" an area of the garden immediately below the window.

Date: 01 ao? 2007 - 06h00

Inspection of the surrounding areas.

Date: August 1st - 6am

After evaluation of the area surrounding the Ocean Club tourist village, based in Praia da Luz, taking account of the characteristic topography of the ground and the distance from where the small child Madeleine McCann disappeared, an inspection was carried out with the help of dogs specialised in the detection of cadaver odour, in various places, such as described:

1 - At 6.40am, an area between the "Piteira" road and the "Oliveira" road, was inspected. At 7.15am the inspection was completed with nothing being detected by the dogs.

2 - At 7.25am, an area adjacent to the "BEIJAFLOR" property on the "Figueira," road, defined by the "Ramalhete" road. An inspection of the whole area was made and nothing abnormal was noted. The inspection was completed at 7.45am.

3 - At 7.55am, an area between the "Casa Azul" residence on the "Figueira" road and the "Casa Pandora" residence as well as a dirt road on the left of the "Figueira" road was inspected by the dogs without anything abnormal being noted. The inspection ended at 8.05am.

4 - At 8.20am, an area between the residences "Casa Pandora" on the "Figueira" road, "Quinta Mimosa" and "Casa Ladeira" without anything abnormal being noted. The inspection ended at 8.40am.

A photographic report of the places inspected is attached.

Initial conclusion.

To the coordinator of the criminal investigation.

Faced with new elements revealed by the dog handling unit's search, attached to the report, and on the basis of Mark Harrison's report, there is every reason to believe that the small child Madeleine McCann died in apartment 5A where she was spending her holiday with her parents at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz. Following the markings by the cadaver odour detecting dogs and traces of human blood inside the apartment from which the child disappeared, we have done further extensive research, revealing that there was never a death, or a body, notified in this same apartment before. In this report, several places were marked, signalling the presence of cadaver odour and human blood. In addition, we can observe that a cadaver odour was detected in the garden adjacent to apartment 5A. Nothing was detected in the other residences.

It follows from this investigation that there are indications, in practice and in the facts, of the crime of murder such as defined in ArticleQI310 of the Penal Code.

So as to go further with this lead, of which certain results may reveal new evidence, we request authorisation to carry out further inspections, within the legal framework, in two distinct places:

1 - Rue des Fleurs no...The McCann family's current residence in Portugal.
2 - Rented vehicle Renault Scenic, registration ...DA - 27.

We suggest that this inspection is entrusted to the PJ and ask the Public Prosecutor for a 20 day mandate. Thus, we consider that there are indications that consolidate strong suspicions according to which, there are elements of evidence of a crime, inside the vehicle used by the McCann's and, moreover, likely to reveal important details of fundamental importance for the investigation.

Villa rue des Fleurs.

Report:

August 2nd 2007 -6.14pm - 27 Rue das Floras- Praia Da Luz - Lagos

Participants:

PJ: Ricardo P & J. Carlos P., inspectors.
UK: Mark Harrison, Martin Grime & Eddie.

On that date, within the context of a residential search, carried out at the McCann couple's current residence, an inspection by a dog handling team was made. Thus, at the time indicated at the beginning of the report, all areas of the property were inspected and the following results obtained:

6.36pm - The dog Eddie, who detects cadaver odours, "marked" the area of a cupboard in the living room. On checking, the dog was indicating a pink soft toy belonging to Madeleine McCann.
The clothes.

Date: August 2nd 2007 - 11.20pm

On that date, following the home visit made to the McCann's' current residence, on the Rue des Fleurs, various items of clothing were laid out in an appropriate place for this purpose, to carry out an inspection by the dog handling unit.

The collected items of clothing were set out individually with the agreement and under the directions provided by the British technicians, the dogs having previously covered the space where the clothing was laid out.

1 - 11.20pm: Prior reconnaissance of the place by the two canine units to guarantee that the space was clear of all odours being sought. The reconnaissance was completed at 11.30pm without anything being signalled by the dogs.

2 - 11.30pm: An initial inspection by the human blood detecting dog, began with the clothing packed in the box bearing the notation: "Living room." At 11.40pm, the inspection was completed without the dog showing anything abnormal.

11.41: The canine human remains recovery dog started its inspection and "marked" various clothes. The inspection was completed at 11.52pm. The clothes were returned to their box for later use.

From 12.02am until 1.30am, (03/08/07) all the other boxes, containing clothing from the twins' bedroom, from the friends' bedroom, from the bedroom of the couple labelled 1 & 2, as well as the empty luggage, was inspected by the two dogs without conclusive results.

Apartment 5A - OCEAN CLUB

As joinder to the procedure. It is made known and according to superior orders that today at 8pm, specialists from LPC (Police forensics lab) Fernando V. and Lino R., after having seen the recorded images resulting from the inspection by the dog handling unit on 31/07/07 in apartment 5A, duly mandated, proceeded with the collection of whole floor tiles where the dogs used in the inspection indicated the possible existence of traces of human blood as well as the presence of a body in the apartment. The tiles were lifted so as to preserve possible samples to be analysed by the appropriate laboratory. This entire action was filmed in order to illustrate the way in which the lifting was accomplished and with what tools so that the experts had a better idea of the work.

Robert Murat/Casa Liliana

Report:

August 4th and 5th 2007.

Casa Liliana, residence of the suspect Robert Murat, situated on "Ramalhete" road - Praia da Luz - Lagos.

Participants:

PJ: Tavares A., chief inspector, J. Carlos P., Ricardo P, inspectors
UK: Mark Harrison, Martin Grime and Eddie.

On that date, within the context of residential visits, which were carried out at the home of the suspect ROBERT MURAT, an inspection by the dog handling unit was made in the gardens and inside the residence of the accused.

August 4th 2007 - 7.28pm: Start of the inspection of the gardens of the residence. Eddie, human remains recovery dog, covered the whole perimeter outside the dwelling and nothing abnormal was signalled.

August 5th 2007 - 3.22pm: The same dog inspected all rooms of the residence and nothing in particular was signalled.

RUSSELL O'BRIEN

To the coordinator of the criminal investigation.

In the context of the investigation, we have collected information concerning a vehicle used by RUSSELL O'BRIEN, friend and member of the group who spent their holiday with the McCann family in the Algarve . At the time of the request for vehicles considered important to the procedures that follow, we were not aware of the identification details of this vehicle. Meantime, our investigation has led us to establish that it may be a vehicle of the "Opel" range, a "Corsa" model, registration....AG - 62. At the present time, we do not have a mandate to search for and seize the vehicle to allow us to add the vehicle to the planned inspections. As a consequence, we request such a legal mandate in order to be able to realize the planned inspections.

Samples sent to the lab.

Between 3pm on August 4th 2007 and 6.30am on August 5th 2007, the following samples were recovered in the living room of apartment 5A at the OCEAN CLUB where a murder probably took place.

Samples 1A to 3B: recovered on the floor.
Samples 4A to 13B: recovered on the wall.
Samples 14A to 15B: recovered behind the sofa.
Sample 16A: recovered from the blue curtain.
Samples 16B: recovered from the white curtain behind the blue curtain.

All of these elements have been handed over to the Birmingham Forensic Science Services. (FSS)

Samples recovered in the car.

Between August 6th at 9.30pm and August 7th at 4am, the following samples were recovered in the grey Renault Scenic car.

From the driver's side:

1A: Hair
1B: Fibre and hairs
1C: Fibres and hairs
1D: Fingernail

Front passenger side:

2A: Hair
2B: Hair
2C: Fibres and hairs
2D: Fibres and hairs
2E: Fingernail

Between the seats:

3A: Hair

Back seat:

4A: Hair
4B: Fibres and hairs
4C: Fibres and hairs

Centre seat:

5A: Hair
5B: Fibres and hairs
5C: Fibres and hairs

Right-hand seat:

6A: Hair
6B: Fibres and hairs
6C: Fibres and hairs

Luggage compartment (rear boot)

7A: Hair
7B: Fibres and hairs
7C: Fibres

8A: Hair
8B: Fibres and hairs
8C: Fibres and hairs

9, 10 and 11: Hair

12: Car key

13: Control samples of seat fabric

All of these were handed over to Birmingham FSS for analyses.

We know that Joao Carlos (who wrote the above) redeemed himself later and proved himself (over the whole investigation) a worthy and commendable PJ officer.

But the above was not his finest moment.