Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007

[Brietta]

The police wanted the phones Brietta. Why don't you ask them why?

1485 "The phone, is it likely that I could collect it when I take you home''

 Reply "I can certainly have a look for it and I can give you, I mean if you, if you wanted to have my other mobile phone with all the numbers in and you know if you can access text messages on that you're welcome to have that phone.'

1485 "Okay, do you know where you'd be able to put your hand on it if you''

 Reply "Err the Samsung one, again, there was a Vodaphone bag that was knocking around, and that would be where it is if err I can find it. Fiona might know.'

1485 "Okay, perhaps you could give her a call or something.'

 Reply "Yeah, yeah.'

1485 "Alright then, it's now sixteen forty on this date.'

 01:09:48 The interview ceased at 1640 hours when the tape recorder was switched off.
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http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm

I really have no interest in asking the police anything at all about situations done and dusted in 2008. 

I am far more interested in the present investigation in which the phone traffic of other individuals who were not known to the McCann party raised one or two professional eyebrows.
No point in asking them however ... particularly as the information concerns an active inquiry into what happened to Madeleine McCann.

Poring over her parent's phone records didn't get us anywhere close ... looking at the other phone calls made on that night might just provide the answers we all seek.

When a blank wall was hit in 2007 regarding the parent's phone traffic the next logical investigative progression should have been to look outward as SY and the PJ did when conducting their reviews.  Because checking the records wasn't continued in 2007 it resulted in a loss of nearly four years.
A tragic state of affairs.

[Eleanor]

An awful lot of people didn't understand the ability to track Cell Phones nine years ago.  A lot still don't.

Quite a lot of criminals have been caught out by this.

[ferryman]

I really have no interest in asking the police anything at all about situations done and dusted in 2008. 

I am far more interested in the present investigation in which the phone traffic of other individuals who were not known to the McCann party raised one or two professional eyebrows.
No point in asking them however ... particularly as the information concerns an active inquiry into what happened to Madeleine McCann.

Poring over her parent's phone records didn't get us anywhere close ... looking at the other phone calls made on that night might just provide the answers we all seek.

When a blank wall was hit in 2007 regarding the parent's phone traffic the next logical investigative progression should have been to look outward as SY and the PJ did when conducting their reviews.  Because checking the records wasn't continued in 2007 it resulted in a loss of nearly four years.
A tragic state of affairs.

I seem to recall Lord Justice Tugendhat, in the course of summarising the reasons for his decision in contempt-of-court proceedings against Tony Bennett, commenting on the very thorough analysis of phone traffic carried out by the PJ during the course of the shelved investigation.

The PJ found it all quite blameless.

[jassi]

Wasn't it all done by British experts on behalf of the PJ?

[Brietta]

Wasn't it all done by British experts on behalf of the PJ?

British experts were sent over to do the technical stuff, Jassie, and were no doubt on standby to assist if required ... but I am certain all the investigative analysis will have been carried out by the PJ.

[Eleanor]

British experts were sent over to do the technical stuff, Jassie, and were no doubt on standby to assist if required ... but I am certain all the investigative analysis will have been carried out by the PJ.

I seem to remember some talk about whether or not some of these Cell Phone owners had criminal records.  Only The PJ could establish that.

[ShiningInLuz]

Does anyone on the forum know if the number of those 2 mobiles was identified?

[Eleanor]

Does anyone on the forum know if the number of those 2 mobiles was identified?

The current Three Arguidos weren't pulled in for questioning for fun.  Without their Cell Phones no one would have known they were there.

[ShiningInLuz]

The current Three Arguidos weren't pulled in for questioning for fun.  Without their Cell Phones no one would have known they were there.

Try asking Heri why the trio were pulled in.  Question is still does anyone have an idea as to the number of those mobiles?

Reason I am asking is I cannot see them on known phone traffic for 4 May, when they should be there.

[Alice Purjorick]

An awful lot of people didn't understand the ability to track Cell Phones nine years ago.  A lot still don't.

Quite a lot of criminals have been caught out by this.

Because they use contract phones. They deserve to be arrested for being so stupid let alone for being criminals.
Tracking cell phones was not exactly cutting edge technology in 2007 and 2007 was at least 5 years after "The Bourne Identity"

http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/03/paris-terrorist-attacks-burner-phones-not-encryption/

[Eleanor]

Try asking Heri why the trio were pulled in.  Question is still does anyone have an idea as to the number of those mobiles?

Reason I am asking is I cannot see them on known phone traffic for 4 May, when they should be there.

You are light years ahead of me on this.  But would you know whose number was whose?  And wasn't it the 3rd of May?

Sorry, I never question Heri.   But you could, if you wish. I am only pretty certain sure that these three men were in PdL on the night of the 3rd of May.  Why they were there, is the question.  And do they have criminal records?

[Eleanor]

Because they use contract phones. They deserve to be arrested for being so stupid let alone for being criminals.
Tracking cell phones was not exactly cutting edge technology in 2007 and 2007 was at least 5 years after "The Bourne Identity"

http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy/2016/03/paris-terrorist-attacks-burner-phones-not-encryption/

A lot of people didn't know this in 2007.

PS.  Is The Bourne Identity real life?  Did you watch it?  I never have.  Much too boring for me.

Ask the terrible woman who killed Zahra Baker.  Her Cell Phone trapped her, and exonerated her husband.

[Heriberto Janosch]

Try asking Heri why the trio were pulled in.  Question is still does anyone have an idea as to the number of those mobiles?

Reason I am asking is I cannot see them on known phone traffic for 4 May, when they should be there.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7118.msg320923#msg320923

[ShiningInLuz]

You are light years ahead of me on this.  But would you know whose number was whose?  And wasn't it the 3rd of May?

Sorry, I never question Heri.   But you could, if you wish. I am only pretty certain sure that these three men were in PdL on the night of the 3rd of May.  Why they were there, is the question.  And do they have criminal records?

Heri thinks 3 PPP are linked by phone calls on 3 May.
Im interested in why the 2 mobiles donated on 4 May do not appear.

[Eleanor]

Heri thinks 3 PPP are linked by phone calls on 3 May.
Im interested in why the 2 mobiles donated on 4 May do not appear.

Donated to whom?  The McCanns?

This surely wouldn't have anything to do with the phones used by the current Arguidos, which do appear to have registered.