Scotland Yard are examining phone traffic in PDL on May 3 2007

[pathfinder73]

The current Three Arguidos weren't pulled in for questioning for fun.  Without their Cell Phones no one would have known they were there.

We're talking about the two new PAYG mobiles received on 4 May. What were their numbers? The police were trying to get hold of them in April 2008.

The PJ only investigated one number.

Activations of the mobile phone (44)778698#### User/Owner: Gerald PATRICK MCCANN.

This phone number activates antennae of two operators: Vodafone and Optimus.

Activations of the mobile phone (44)790-310-####; Owned/used by KATE MARIE HEALY [McCann].

This number activates only antennae of operator Optimus and TMN.

Activations of mobile phone (44)774-884-####; Owned/used by: DAVID ANTHONY PAYNE.

What about the other two phones they were using from 4 May 2007?

[Eleanor]

We're talking about the two new PAYG mobiles received on 4 May. What were their numbers? The police were trying to get hold of them in April 2008.

The PJ only investigated one number not two.

Activations of the mobile phone (44)778698#### User/Owner: Gerald PATRICK MCCANN.

This phone number activates antennae of two operators: Vodafone and Optimus.

Activations of the mobile phone (44)790-310-####; Owned/used by KATE MARIE HEALY [McCann].

This number activates only antennae of operator Optimus and TMN.

Activations of mobile phone (44)774-884-####; Owned/used by: DAVID ANTHONY PAYNE.

What about the other phone they were using from 4 May 2007?

What has this got to do with the current Arguidos?

[pathfinder73]

What has this got to do with the current Arguidos?

Everything. An investigation covers everyone (no one is ruled out!) when it is still unsolved after 9 years.

[Eleanor]

Everything. An investigation covers everyone (no one is ruled out!) when it is still unsolved after 9 years.

Sorry.  You have lost me.

[pathfinder73]

Sorry.  You have lost me.

SY will be examining all phone traffic and numbers that haven't been investigated will be at the top of their list.

[ferryman]

Everything. An investigation covers everyone (no one is ruled out!) when it is still unsolved after 9 years.

Stuff and nonsense ...

During the course of a (progressive) enquiry, suspects are (often, not always) ruled out long before the investigation results in perpetrators being nailed.

Joanna Yate's boyfriend was (initially) suspected, then ruled out, long before the true perpetrator of the crime was nailed; ditto, the landlord (of the couple where they lived) ...

[Eleanor]

SY will be examining all phone traffic and numbers that haven't been investigated will be at the top of their list.

I think they already have.

[Eleanor]

Topic, Please.   

[pathfinder73]

Stuff and nonsense ...

During the course of a (progressive) enquiry, suspects are (often, not always) ruled out long before the investigation results in perpetrators being nailed.

Joanna Yate's boyfriend was (initially) suspected, then ruled out, long before the true perpetrator of the crime was nailed; ditto, the landlord (of the couple where they lived) ...

Of course suspects are investigated and ruled out in the course of an investigation but this is still unsolved after 9 years which means they can't rule anything out. In many cases suspects are ruled out early on but when new evidence appears they are the ones that did it. That is reality not fantasy because perps lie/trick the police believe it or not 

DCI Redwood said that police had sought to "try and draw everything back to zero... take everything back to the beginning and then reanalyse and reassess everything, accepting nothing".

[ferryman]

Of course suspects are investigated and ruled out in the course of an investigation but this is still unsolved after 9 years which means they can't rule anything out. In many cases suspects are ruled out early on but when new evidence appears they are the ones that did it. That is reality not fantasy because perps lie/trick the police believe it or not 

DCI Redwood said that police had sought to "try and draw everything back to zero... take everything back to the beginning and then reanalyse and reassess everything, accepting nothing".

Ben Needham's disappearance remains unsolved after (I have lost track of how many) decades, yet Kerry Needham has (long since) been ruled out (and rightly so).

[mercury]

Stuff and nonsense ...

During the course of a (progressive) enquiry, suspects are (often, not always) ruled out long before the investigation results in perpetrators being nailed.

Joanna Yate's boyfriend was (initially) suspected, then ruled out, long before the true perpetrator of the crime was nailed; ditto, the landlord (of the couple where they lived) ...

No he was not,

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/Boyfriend-Greg-suspect-architect-s-murder-say-police/story-11648224-detail/story.html

[pathfinder73]

Ben Needham's disappearance remains unsolved after (I have lost track of how many) decades, yet Kerry Needham has (long since) been ruled out (and rightly so).

Nobody is ruled out if you take on a case. A detective is not doing their job if they start with a preconceived state of mind.

[ferryman]

Nobody is ruled out if you take on a case. A detective is not doing their job if they start with a preconceived state of mind.

So the second enquiry will have commenced without any pre-conceived conceptions (about the - alleged - 'guilt! of the McCanns? ...

[pathfinder73]

So the second enquiry will have commenced without any pre-conceived conceptions (about the - alleged - 'guilt! of the McCanns? ...

Sometimes, it is the prime suspect's door I am knocking on, whether I know it or not. Usually, I treat everyone as a suspect in a cold case because the simple fact is, I don't know who committed the murder.

I don't let the people I'm interviewing know that I consider them suspects. I treat them like they were friends or witnesses, and I tell them I'm just gathering information. But I watch them; I observe them keenly.

Inside the Mind of a Cold Case Detective
To solve a decades-old murder you have to be curious, dedicated, and dogged in the search for the truth.

I love old detectives. I have worked with two; they had a combined 60 years of homicide experience between them. I loved listening to their stories, but I can tell you right now that some of what they say is BS. When they tell me a guy is innocent because of the way he reacted to a picture of the victim or that a guy shouldn't be considered a suspect because he showed up early for the interview, I laugh. The first thing a good investigator, especially a cold case investigator, needs to know is that you can't base your conclusions on past experiences because those experiences are not foolproof.

The only way to solve a decades-old murder is through hard work, thorough analysis of the evidence, and plain old witness interviews.

http://www.policemag.com/channel/careers-training/articles/2014/10/inside-the-mind-of-a-cold-case-detective.aspx

[mercury]

So the second enquiry will have commenced without any pre-conceived conceptions (about the - alleged - 'guilt! of the McCanns? ...

No different to SY..ie you have NO idea what police on the job thnk believe or are doing