1485 ”Who lent you these phones that Simon ALDRIDGE had organised for you?”
Reply ”Err I mean, Si, Simon’s brother err is a gentleman called Nick and Nick’s wife Nicky had got friends out in the Algarve and they were just you know basic people who were just willing to help us in whatever capacity it was, whether we wanted a room for the night or anything and they asked is there anything we can do, err whether they could do, and err and that was, you know, that was one thing we said well actually you know err Kate’s phone’s nearly ran out, we’re sat, we don’t know how long we’re gonna be at the Police Station you know could, you know, can they, you know is there any way of getting phones to us just so that you know, we can, for communication. Err and err so that was, that was a capacity really err of people.”
1485 ”And where were these phones, when did these phones arrive?”
Reply ”Err when did we get the phones? When we were at the Police Station, err you know as, you know I just asked whether I could just pop downstairs there was someone who’s brought us phones and they said yeah, so I quickly popped downstairs, got the phones, and took them back into the Police Station. Err I can’t remember if there was any power in them when we opened them up but err so then that was, you know, so the phones were just, you know because we hadn’t got any other, anything there, so.”
1485 ”And what phones were they? Do you remember what sort of, what make they were?”
Reply ”Err they were Samsung phones, err and I think they were Vodaphone SIM cards. Err the actual model, I can’t tell you the Samsung phone but they were, something like the Samsung three hundred, something like that.”
1485 ”Yeah, how many phones were there?”
Reply ”There was, there was two err and we ended up, err again, we ended up keeping one and Kate and Gerry had one, I think we gave the second one to Kate and Gerry as well after a while but we were err you know because they’d got credit put on to them so we were just using those phones rather than run up the expense of our own phones.”
1485 ”Yeah.”
Reply ”So err yeah.”
1485 ”So the two phones, you’ve kept one and gave one to Kate and Gerry?”
Reply ”Kate and Gerry yeah.”
1485 ”And do you have the numbers of those phones in your phone?”
Reply ”I don’t, no, no.”
1485 ”Where are these phones now?”
Reply ”Err as far as I am aware that they, you know, remained in Portugal, again…”
1485 ”With whom?”
Reply ”With Kate and Gerry.”
1485 ”So Kate and Gerry took possession of that second phone which you had?”
Reply ”Well, they certainly kept the first one, the second one, the second one, sorry, no I think that’s rubbish. I think I, I may well have got the, I might have got the second phone. Actually I’ve got a sneaky feeling when I got home I tried the UK SIM card in it and it didn’t work so I could well have got the second phone.”
1485 ”So is it likely that this second phone is at your home address?”
Reply ”Err that is a strong possibility.”
1485 ”So two Samsung phones.”
Reply ”Yeah, yeah.”
1485 ”One is, to your knowledge, still with Kate and Gerry.”
Reply ”Yeah.”
1485 ”The other one you may well have at your home address.”
Reply ”Yeah, yeah.”
1485 ”Did you use the phones often?”
Reply ”Not…”
1485 ”In Portugal?”
Reply ”Not a great deal no, no, it was, it was, first of all you know we didn’t have any numbers in them already and then with being a Portuguese phone you know it was just a bit more difficult so we, if we ever used them, I mean which wasn’t often, we’d perhaps call Kate and Gerry using the Portuguese phone, but it wasn’t a kind of religious oh we’ll just use the, that Portuguese phone to err you know establish communication.”
1485 ”Yeah.”
Reply ”Err you know and the other reason that we, we had the, one of the phones is because Fiona didn’t have a phone either so you know, so it’s like she had the use of the other phone as well.”
1485 ”Right, so out of the two of you then, who predominantly used that phone?”
Reply ”I’d say Fiona.”
1485 ”Fiona?”
Reply ”Yeah.”
1485 ”And has it been used since it’s been in the UK?”
Reply ”No.”
1485 ”Okay, okay.”
Reply ”And I’m just trying to think you know how much, you know the, the, I can’t remember you know obviously we were there for four weeks after but when the actual credit ran out, because I remember the credit running out and not being able to actually put anymore on even though it’s supposed to be quite straight forward but again, you know whether that was after, you know, three weeks of being out there or whatever I can’t remember.”
1485 ”Yeah, how many times do you think you topped it up then?”
Reply ”I don’t, I don’t think we did, I don’t think I did. I don’t think I could work out how to do it to be honest.”
1485 ”So when both of them arrived both of them had credit on them?”
Reply ”They put, I think they put, I think err I think they put forty pound credit or forty euros, you know, which seemed to last a lot longer than the amount of credit we were (inaudible) we were using our own err mobile phones.”
1485 ”Just wait there a second I’ll just (inaudible).”
Reply ”Okay.”
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DC MESSIAH re-enters the interview room.
1485 ”All done.”
Reply ”Okay.”
1485 ”The phone, is it likely that I could collect it when I take you home?”
Reply ”I can certainly have a look for it and I can give you, I mean if you, if you wanted to have my other mobile phone with all the numbers in and you know if you can access text messages on that you’re welcome to have that phone.”
1485 ”Okay, do you know where you’d be able to put your hand on it if you…”
Reply ”Err the Samsung one, again, there was a Vodaphone bag that was knocking around, and that would be where it is if err I can find it. Fiona might know.”
1485 ”Okay, perhaps you could give her a call or something.”
Reply ”Yeah, yeah.”
1485 ”Alright then, it’s now sixteen forty on this date.”
The interview ceased at 1640 hours when the tape recorder was switched off.
