Why don't the McCanns put up Madeleine posters abroad like they ask of others?

[DCI]

Ah, thanks DCI. Not very ill-fated at all then, rather the opposite, a lot more people visit towns & villages during fiesta times than normal.

I think you'll find it was the McCanns rather than myself who were disappointed hat it was a bank holiday   

They should have gone the day before, but Gerry was ill.

Don't forget this was the trip, where Amaral said they had stopped off and buried Madeleine.

[amaraltheofficeboy]

Ah, thanks DCI. Not very ill-fated at all then, rather the opposite, a lot more people visit towns & villages during fiesta times than normal.

I think you'll find it was the McCanns rather than myself who were disappointed hat it was a bank holiday   

They should have gone the day before, but Gerry was ill.

Don't forget this was the trip, where Amaral said they had stopped off and buried Madeleine.

hence "ill-fated"

as if we didn't know!

[gilet]

Ah, thanks DCI. Not very ill-fated at all then, rather the opposite, a lot more people visit towns & villages during fiesta times than normal.

I think you'll find it was the McCanns rather than myself who were disappointed hat it was a bank holiday   

do you recognise the difference between "disappointed" and "ill-fated"?

The trip was ill-fated in regard to it having to take place a day later than planned, causing disappointment as it was a public holiday.

You see what I did there ? Two different words yet both relevant in the context used. Marvellous 

Do you have any evidence of this disappointment about it being a public holiday? It appears nowhere in Kate McCann's or Gerry's words. What is the basis on which you are making this claim please?

It was unfortunate that the shopping centre was closed, certainly. But they made good use of the time and when we read both accounts it is very clear that there was no disappointment at all with the day's activities.

What gives you the idea that there was?

Dearie me !!

That they made the best of a less than ideal situation does not negate the fact that Gerry, at least, felt disappointed that their plans were not realised fully.

Still making assumptions. There is absolutely nothing in either of their quotes to justify your presumption of disappointment in the day's activities. Gerry simply states that it was unfortunate that the shopping centre was closed.

As Kate says, though,  the feeling was that it had been A VERY PRODUCTIVE TRIP.

I prefer to believe the words of those involved rather than your concocted interpretation of their words. I recall Tony Bennett was a great one for re-jigging people's words and look where that got him.

[faithlilly]

Ah, thanks DCI. Not very ill-fated at all then, rather the opposite, a lot more people visit towns & villages during fiesta times than normal.

I think you'll find it was the McCanns rather than myself who were disappointed hat it was a bank holiday   

do you recognise the difference between "disappointed" and "ill-fated"?

The trip was ill-fated in regard to it having to take place a day later than planned, causing disappointment as it was a public holiday.

You see what I did there ? Two different words yet both relevant in the context used. Marvellous 

Do you have any evidence of this disappointment about it being a public holiday? It appears nowhere in Kate McCann's or Gerry's words. What is the basis on which you are making this claim please?

It was unfortunate that the shopping centre was closed, certainly. But they made good use of the time and when we read both accounts it is very clear that there was no disappointment at all with the day's activities.

What gives you the idea that there was?

Dearie me !!

That they made the best of a less than ideal situation does not negate the fact that Gerry, at least, felt disappointed that their plans were not realised fully.

Still making assumptions. There is absolutely nothing in either of their quotes to justify your presumption of disappointment in the day's activities. Gerry simply states that it was unfortunate that the shopping centre was closed.

As Kate says, though,  the feeling was that it had been A VERY PRODUCTIVE TRIP.

I prefer to believe the words of those involved rather than your concocted interpretation of their words. I recall Tony Bennett was a great one for re-jigging people's words and look where that got him.

As Kate herself admits to being untruthful regarding the events surrounding the re-scheduled trip perhaps your faith in her honesty is somewhat misplaced ?

[gilet]

As Kate herself admits to being untruthful regarding the events surrounding the re-scheduled trip perhaps your faith in her honesty is somewhat misplaced ?

Does she? Evidence?

[AnneGuedes]

To be useful a billboard should have an updated picture of the missing child. Madeleine looked older (not a toddler) when she vanished (referring to the pictures taken in PDL).

To be fair, it is entirely up to the parents (with the advice of experts, possibly) to decide what picture to use. It is not up to forum posters.

I could be not the only one who wouldn't have associated "PDL" Madeleine with "toddler" Madeleine. Now if you pretend the parents deliberately decided (eventually advised by experts) Madeleine's face shouldn't be recognized, I withdraw.

[DCI]

Ah, thanks DCI. Not very ill-fated at all then, rather the opposite, a lot more people visit towns & villages during fiesta times than normal.

I think you'll find it was the McCanns rather than myself who were disappointed hat it was a bank holiday   

They should have gone the day before, but Gerry was ill.

Don't forget this was the trip, where Amaral said they had stopped off and buried Madeleine.

hence "ill-fated"

as if we didn't know!

Huelva trip 3rd August.

Car removed from outside cafe On 6th August 2007.

"At the Policia Judiciária’s request, Gerry went to meet them at a cafe in Portimão. He returned minus the car. The police had impounded it for forensic testing".

On 6th August 2007 at about 15.17 a sniffer dog inspection was carried out.

Portuguese fingerprint expert, Pedro Miguel Filipe Goncalo Vilhena, drove the car. Did he go straight to the garage, or was the car parked up, before being taken, for inspection.

I find it unbelieveable that it appears, there's no statement from him, in the files.

[DCI]

To be useful a billboard should have an updated picture of the missing child. Madeleine looked older (not a toddler) when she vanished (referring to the pictures taken in PDL).

To be fair, it is entirely up to the parents (with the advice of experts, possibly) to decide what picture to use. It is not up to forum posters.

I could be not the only one who wouldn't have associated "PDL" Madeleine with "toddler" Madeleine. Now if you pretend the parents deliberately decided (eventually advised by experts) Madeleine's face shouldn't be recognized, I withdraw.

So what photo, was Amaral intending to use, when he asked permission to divulge details Madeleine's abduction?

[gilet]

As Kate herself admits to being untruthful regarding the events surrounding the re-scheduled trip perhaps your faith in her honesty is somewhat misplaced ?

I repeat, where does Kate admitting to being "untruthful regarding the events surrounding the re-scheduled trip"?

Is this simply another anti-McCann lie or do you have some evidence?

[gilet]

Here we go again.  Kate McCann did not admit to being untruthful.  The McCanns used Gerry's mild stomach upset as an excuse not to go to Huelva whilst the police conducted their searches. That Kate tells us this in her best-selling book for the whole world to read hardly constitutes dishonesty as far as I'm concerned, but obviously  to a "sceptic" Kate's candour can usefully be twisted into a "lie".  Same old same old.

I think it is absolutely disgraceful that Faithlilly has posted this libelous claim about Kate McCann but is so far unable to offer any evidence as to its origin.

It looks as if she simply has no evidence to offer.

You have clearly shown that there is no justification for such a claim in the book.

So we are still waiting for her to explain.

[faithlilly]

As Kate herself admits to being untruthful regarding the events surrounding the re-scheduled trip perhaps your faith in her honesty is somewhat misplaced ?

Does she? Evidence?

From Madeleine :

'We’d never lied about anything – not to the police, not to the media, not to anyone else. But now we found ourselves in one of those tricky situations where we just didn’t seem to have a choice. As it happened, Gerry had a mild stomach upset which we used as an excuse to postpone the trip. We didn’t feel good about this at all, but even if the judicial secrecy law had not prevented us from giving the main reason, can you imagine what would have happened if we’d announced to the journalists heading for Huelva that the police were coming to do some forensic work in our villa? We were not to know our excuse would prove to be no more than a temporary holding measure. If we had, we wouldn’t have bothered trying to keep the scurrilous headlines at bay.'

[amaraltheofficeboy]

As Kate herself admits to being untruthful regarding the events surrounding the re-scheduled trip perhaps your faith in her honesty is somewhat misplaced ?

Does she? Evidence?

From Madeleine :

'We’d never lied about anything – not to the police, not to the media, not to anyone else. But now we found ourselves in one of those tricky situations where we just didn’t seem to have a choice. As it happened, Gerry had a mild stomach upset which we used as an excuse to postpone the trip. We didn’t feel good about this at all, but even if the judicial secrecy law had not prevented us from giving the main reason, can you imagine what would have happened if we’d announced to the journalists heading for Huelva that the police were coming to do some forensic work in our villa? We were not to know our excuse would prove to be no more than a temporary holding measure. If we had, we wouldn’t have bothered trying to keep the scurrilous headlines at bay.'

is that a quote from Kate's book?

[faithlilly]

Here we go again.  Kate McCann did not admit to being untruthful.  The McCanns used Gerry's mild stomach upset as an excuse not to go to Huelva whilst the police conducted their searches. That Kate tells us this in her best-selling book for the whole world to read hardly constitutes dishonesty as far as I'm concerned, but obviously  to a "sceptic" Kate's candour can usefully be twisted into a "lie".  Same old same old.

.


From Kate's own pen :

'We’d never lied about anything – not to the police, not to the media, not to anyone else. But now we found ourselves in one of those tricky situations where we just didn’t seem to have a choice.'

[faithlilly]

As Kate herself admits to being untruthful regarding the events surrounding the re-scheduled trip perhaps your faith in her honesty is somewhat misplaced ?

Does she? Evidence?

From Madeleine :

'We’d never lied about anything – not to the police, not to the media, not to anyone else. But now we found ourselves in one of those tricky situations where we just didn’t seem to have a choice. As it happened, Gerry had a mild stomach upset which we used as an excuse to postpone the trip. We didn’t feel good about this at all, but even if the judicial secrecy law had not prevented us from giving the main reason, can you imagine what would have happened if we’d announced to the journalists heading for Huelva that the police were coming to do some forensic work in our villa? We were not to know our excuse would prove to be no more than a temporary holding measure. If we had, we wouldn’t have bothered trying to keep the scurrilous headlines at bay.'

is that a quote from Kate's book?

It is indeed. Haven't you read it ? 

[amaraltheofficeboy]

As Kate herself admits to being untruthful regarding the events surrounding the re-scheduled trip perhaps your faith in her honesty is somewhat misplaced ?

Does she? Evidence?

From Madeleine :

'We’d never lied about anything – not to the police, not to the media, not to anyone else. But now we found ourselves in one of those tricky situations where we just didn’t seem to have a choice. As it happened, Gerry had a mild stomach upset which we used as an excuse to postpone the trip. We didn’t feel good about this at all, but even if the judicial secrecy law had not prevented us from giving the main reason, can you imagine what would have happened if we’d announced to the journalists heading for Huelva that the police were coming to do some forensic work in our villa? We were not to know our excuse would prove to be no more than a temporary holding measure. If we had, we wouldn’t have bothered trying to keep the scurrilous headlines at bay.'

is that a quote from Kate's book?

It is indeed. Haven't you read it ? 

no I haven't