If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?

[DCI]

Everyone seems to be assuming it was a man hiding in the room (if in fact anyone was), but no-one seems to be considering a woman, one who Madeleine might well recognise if  she should wake up and be less frightening for her than some man she doesn't know which might start her screaming,  And chalet maids and cleaners are usually quite strong.  Okay, shoot me down, but everything is feasible. would all of you not agree?

Exactly.

Plan of Madeleine's room

[Puffin]

That does not mean that the person who ENTERED the apartment was a man, it may have been a woman, who THEN handed the (by then sedated by method unknown) sleeping Madeleine to a man, who was seen by Jane Tanner walking away from the scene.

Thanks Mrs B, that was what I was getting at.  I wasn't talking about someone walking away with the child, I meant inside the room.

[icabodcrane]

If there were more than one person involved, e.g. one or two acting as look-outs, most likely they would have established some form of communication/warning system. The person in the apartment would then have been alerted to the fact that there was movement & that possibly someone was going to enter the apartment, giving that person a chance to exit the apartment BEFORE Gerry entered?

I have never really bought into the idea that there was more than one abductor  on the grounds that the more people involved, the more likely the crime is to be solved  (  in this case not a single credible lead or clue has been found  )

Then again though,  those three brothers in America colluded to keep women prisoners in their house for years without anyone having a clue they were doing it  ...  so I suppose it is possible

[Mrs. B]

Thanks Mrs B, that was what I was getting at.  I wasn't talking about someone walking away with the child, I meant inside the room.

Actually, come to think of it, such a staff member, part of the cleaning crew or similar would have been ideal for the job. Even if she was caught in the apartment, she could easily have come up with a valid excuse (she'd been sent to the wrong apartment to do something or other).

[Benice]

But not likely here as we are talking about Tanners sighting, she saw a man

Not if 2 people were involved - and it could be a man and a woman. 

Because of the way the man was carrying the child -i.e.  with her head to his left, then that would tie in with someone picking Madeleine up from her bed - so that her her head would be to their right  -  and then passing her across to another person.  It would also indicate that the two people were facing oneanother at the time she was passed from one person to the other.

So Madeleine could have been passed through the window, or at the front door, or even over the wall opposite the front door to someone waiting on the other side.  There are several possibilities.  AIMHO

[Puffin]

I have never really bought into the idea that there was more than one abductor  on the grounds that the more people involved, the more likely the crime is to be solved  (  in this case not a single credible lead or clue has been found  )

Then again though,  those three brothers in America colluded to keep women prisoners in their house for years without anyone having a clue they were doing it  ...  so I suppose it is possible

Icabod, if you are referring to the Ariel Castro case, then I must correct you as only one brother has been accused, the other two were taken in for questioning then released as being not involved, they were actually tried on a couple of minor outstanding warrants that had nothing to do with the kidnapping case.

[Redblossom]

Actually, come to think of it, such a staff member, part of the cleaning crew or similar would have been ideal for the job. Even if she was caught in the apartment, she could easily have come up with a valid excuse (she'd been sent to the wrong apartment to do something or other).

Like what? Cleaners dont enter the flats at night to do anything at all, the sound of barrels being scraped again
 

[Mrs. B]

Icabod, if you are referring to the Ariel Castro case, then I must correct you as only one brother has been accused, the other two were taken in for questioning then released as being not involved, they were actually tried on a couple of minor outstanding warrants that had nothing to do with the kidnapping case.

Yes, that case was different. But there are other cases where a woman & a man have colluded to keep a child prisoner for years. Jaycee Lee Dugard is one example.

[icabodcrane]

Icabod, if you are referring to the Ariel Castro case, then I must correct you as only one brother has been accused, the other two were taken in for questioning then released as being not involved, they were actually tried on a couple of minor outstanding warrants that had nothing to do with the kidnapping case.

I didn't know that  (  I havn't been following it closely, so thanks for the update Puffin )

How could they have not known what was going on though ?

Anyway, that's not for here  ...  sorry to go off topic

[Redblossom]

Yes, that case was different. But there are other cases where a woman & a man have colluded to keep a child prisoner for years. Jaycee Lee Dugard is one example.

Irrelevant,chalk and cheese cases in every single respect,no comparisons whatsoever

[Mrs. B]

Ah, pure ignorance again. What do you do if you need more sheets, towels etc. You call reception & guess who they send out with more sheets, towels etc? Oh yes, house keeping staff.

[Redblossom]

Ah, pure ignorance again. What do you do if you need more sheets, towels etc. You call reception & guess who they send out with more sheets, towels etc? Oh yes, house keeping staff.

Of course the one they sent out in that theory just happened to be the evil one plotting with criminalsto steal maddie, sure, great luck

[Eleanor]

Of course the one they sent out in that theory just happened to be the evil one plotting with criminalsto steal maddie, sure, great luck

No dear.  She would only be pretending to be from House Keeping if she got caught in the appartment. 
Sheesh.

[registrar]

I believe some here have stayed at the OC, so just out of personal interest - when you guys where there - were the various pools cleaned first thing in the morning - or at night (or both)? 

Does anyone know?

[Mrs. B]

No dear.  She would only be pretending to be from House Keeping if she got caught in the appartment. 
Sheesh.

LOL It can only get more fun after this...