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AnneGuedes

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #240 on: June 07, 2013, 03:19:54 PM »
I'm curious to see what they'll do with this hot potato the Portugueses were obviously relieved to be rid of. This I forgot his name also retiring supervisor, was he advised to seem to feed the media, or did he talk on his own ?

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #241 on: June 07, 2013, 07:49:30 PM »
It's a direct quote FROM the article, can you not read? Surely, you understand that a Guardian journalist has a lot more credibility than you will ever have?

I am asking for a direct quote from Redwood and if it's in the article you will be able to reproduce it, won't you ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

AnneGuedes

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #242 on: June 07, 2013, 07:55:12 PM »
I am asking for a direct quote from Redwood and if it's in the article you will be able to reproduce it, won't you ?
You're right, Faithlilly, there isn't even a reported quote in this article.

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #243 on: June 07, 2013, 08:49:44 PM »
The journalist obviously made that bit up, ie if redwood said he believed there was a possibility or his belief of a stranger abduction, then some might read that as discrediting other theories, of course, that is not what he said, is it??? and  of course  not all the files had been gone through at the time  so how he could even make a statement as to his beliefs is a time warp,  btw what press conference? Was it a secret one?

Gosh if secret courts are not enough in this country, we have secret police press conferences too? Whats the point? Of having a press conference  when its not shown on tv or reported on it fully

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #244 on: June 07, 2013, 11:35:28 PM »
The journalist obviously made that bit up, ie if redwood said he believed there was a possibility or his belief of a stranger abduction, then some might read that as discrediting other theories, of course, that is not what he said, is it??? and  of course  not all the files had been gone through at the time  so how he could even make a statement as to his beliefs is a time warp,  btw what press conference? Was it a secret one?

Gosh if secret courts are not enough in this country, we have secret police press conferences too? Whats the point? Of having a press conference  when its not shown on tv or reported on it fully

I think Redwood was very circumspect in what he said Redblossom and yes Anne there is no direct quote. It's simply the journalist taking one statement and assuming another.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #245 on: June 07, 2013, 11:55:10 PM »
Is there any quote anywhere from Andy Redwood giving even the smallest hint that anything other than stranger abduction was a possibility?  If so I haven't seen it.
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #246 on: June 08, 2013, 12:11:51 AM »
Is there any quote anywhere from Andy Redwood giving even the smallest hint that anything other than stranger abduction was a possibility?  If so I haven't seen it.

But that wasn't the question, was it ? The question was can anyone reproduce a categorical, verbatim statement from Redwood stating that the McCanns were not involved in their daughters's disappearance and the answer to that seems to be a resounding NO.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #247 on: June 08, 2013, 12:25:48 AM »
But that wasn't the question, was it ? The question was can anyone reproduce a categorical, verbatim statement from Redwood stating that the McCanns were not involved in their daughters's disappearance and the answer to that seems to be a resounding NO.

Well I think anyone who thinks that SY have any suspicions at all about the McCanns is going to be sorely disappointed. 

The McCann have said they are pleased/encouraged by the work of the SY, which means they have been briefed about the progress.   That would not be happening if they were suspected of being involved.   Questioned - yes.    Briefed - no.    IMO

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #248 on: June 08, 2013, 12:55:00 AM »
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

AnneGuedes

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #249 on: June 08, 2013, 01:59:55 AM »
Well I think anyone who thinks that SY have any suspicions at all about the McCanns is going to be sorely disappointed. 

The McCann have said they are pleased/encouraged by the work of the SY, which means they have been briefed about the progress.   That would not be happening if they were suspected of being involved.   Questioned - yes.    Briefed - no.    IMO
No tax payer intends to be disappointed, Benice. For this to be achieved, and whatever the conclusions, however tough or cheering they are concerning Madeleine, evidence will be required. If they don't know, they don't know, all right. But if they say it was death by water or abduction by a fairy, they'll have to prove it.

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #250 on: June 08, 2013, 12:42:17 PM »
Well I think anyone who thinks that SY have any suspicions at all about the McCanns is going to be sorely disappointed. 

The McCann have said they are pleased/encouraged by the work of the SY, which means they have been briefed about the progress.   That would not be happening if they were suspected of being involved.   Questioned - yes.    Briefed - no.    IMO


From, at the very least, the 8th of August the McCanns knew the Portuguese police believed they were implicated in their daughter's disappearance but you will find no mention of it in any of the interviews they conducted at that time.



Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #251 on: June 08, 2013, 01:14:16 PM »


From, at the very least, the 8th of August the McCanns knew the Portuguese police believed they were implicated in their daughter's disappearance but you will find no mention of it in any of the interviews they conducted at that time.

How do YOU KNOW that ?

AnneGuedes

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #252 on: June 08, 2013, 01:20:11 PM »
They were suspecting at least. In Mr McCann's blog, that was read by all the supporters and money senders, he tries to "golden the pill", as we say in French and as Mrs McCann's "Madeleine" shows it.
Benice should remember what the LC declared in July 2008, some days before the case was shelved more or less that the innocence of one McCann or both was possible but that no clear proof allowed to eliminate them from being involved in the disappearance of Madeleine (I'm citing from memory, but I think the meaning is there and correct me if it's not).

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Re: If the man Jane Tanner saw was the abductor, how long did he have ?
« Reply #253 on: June 08, 2013, 01:23:30 PM »
How do YOU KNOW that ?

Well, Amaral implicated them in their daughter's disappearance on the 4th May.
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