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Offline pathfinder73

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #510 on: November 10, 2013, 11:37:29 PM »
If anything was moved in the car then I believe it was done quickly after getting the car (first few weeks) and moved to it's final resting place. I believe the car in the Huelva trip may have done a detour and visited the resting place in the missing hours.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #511 on: November 10, 2013, 11:43:00 PM »
If anything was moved in the car then I believe it was done quickly after getting the car (first few weeks) and moved to it's final resting place. I believe the car in the Huelva trip may have done a detour and visited the resting place in the missing hours.
I guess you've read Mr Amaral's book, because you're describing what he thinks Smithman did.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #512 on: November 10, 2013, 11:50:08 PM »
I had a quick look through his book online - didn't read it all. I don't agree with Gerry finding Madeleine behind the sofa on his check at 9.05pm. I think he thought that?
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #513 on: November 10, 2013, 11:52:30 PM »
I had a quick look through his book online - didn't read it all. I don't agree with Gerry finding Madeleine behind the sofa on his check at 9.05pm. I think he thought that?
Yes, he thought so.  But about what happened after the alarm, he's close to you !

Offline pegasus

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #514 on: November 10, 2013, 11:53:25 PM »
He left at about 21:57 I would say.
Ah this is interesting, I conservitavely estimated it would take 5 minutes for a person walking very fast to get from the apartment to the (witness PS) sighting location.on Rua Escola. You are better qualified than me, do you think 3 minutes is more accurate?



AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #515 on: November 11, 2013, 12:14:44 AM »
Ah this is interesting, I conservitavely estimated it would take 5 minutes for a person walking very fast to get from the apartment to the (witness PS) sighting location.on Rua Escola. You are better qualified than me, do you think 3 minutes is more accurate?
It took me less than 3 minutes, but I was only carrying my bag. Smithman, more muscles than me, was carrying sliding 15 kg. So let's give him 4 minutes ! ;)

Offline pegasus

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #516 on: November 11, 2013, 12:28:08 AM »
plus or minus fifteen minutes. There is no reliable method to determine this with accuracy.

I think the credit card machine at Dolpin, and the till at Kellys, are reasonably reliable methods.

AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #517 on: November 11, 2013, 12:37:24 AM »
I think the credit card machine at Dolpin, and the till at Kellys, are reasonably reliable methods.
The nurse can't reply for now..
I would trust Aoife Smith's notion of time, she wasn't in a hurry, having no flight to catch early morning. So she was in the last of the three groups the Smith family formed.

Offline sadie

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #518 on: November 11, 2013, 12:58:17 AM »
If it weren't so sad, your conversation trying to set the Mccanns up would be very funny.

SY are happy that they are not involved
The PT police are happy that they arer not involved


Why cant you leave them alone?    >@@(*&)

There has to be a reason why you want so desperately for the blame to fall on them

There has to be a reason !

Offline pegasus

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #519 on: November 11, 2013, 01:03:29 AM »
It took me less than 3 minutes, but I was only carrying my bag. Smithman, more muscles than me, was carrying sliding 15 kg. So let's give him 4 minutes ! ;)
Big thanks.
So if Smithman was seen at the south end of Rua Escola at 22:00, and if he came from the apartment, then he left the apartment at about 21:56.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2013, 01:12:30 AM by pegasus »

Offline pathfinder73

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #520 on: November 11, 2013, 01:06:25 AM »
I believe he was running at least half the distance so make that 3 mins highest total time.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #521 on: November 11, 2013, 01:22:40 AM »
I believe he was running at least half the distance so make that 3 mins highest total time.
He was certainly walking fast, but not running, carrying wasn't easy (this is imo what Mr Smith noticed as clumsy).
But he likely run on the way back, rua Directa up to the short cut, in this occurrence a long cut.

Offline sadie

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #522 on: November 11, 2013, 02:16:54 AM »
He was certainly walking fast, but not running, carrying wasn't easy (this is imo what Mr Smith noticed as clumsy).
But he likely run on the way back, rua Directa up to the short cut, in this occurrence a long cut.
THis is disgraceful
It wasn't Mr McCann. Mrs Webster was yet sitting at the table and didn't see Mr McCann.
It was Gerry Mccann

This is the second time tonight that you have inferred that I am a liar

Pack it in Anne.  It is not called for.

Offline Eleanor

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #523 on: November 11, 2013, 09:22:03 AM »

Didn't they say that Joana Cipriano was dumped in a bin?  Among other things.

Whatever works for you I suppose.

stephen25000

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #524 on: November 11, 2013, 09:52:52 AM »
Here we go again.

Now where have we seen this sighting before.

It is truly from the sublime to the pathetic.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/5254957/maddie-weirdo-targeted-children-portugal.html