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Offline pathfinder73

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #555 on: November 12, 2013, 05:36:02 PM »
4078    “Yeah. And then it says what did you do next? Well you went back to your apartment to look after your granddaughters and at some point you had a little look around but couldn’t remember whether that was…”

 Reply    “That would have been before I went back to the apartment. I can, I can, I can only assume that I went back to the apartment to let Fiona, to release Fiona so she could come and be there for Kate.”

 4078    “And then you went back to the Tapas bar to collect the belongings that had been left.”

 Reply    “Yeah.”
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline jassi

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #556 on: November 12, 2013, 05:40:16 PM »
Thanks, question answered .
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline pegasus

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #557 on: November 13, 2013, 02:12:19 AM »
If only we could show the till printout to the witnesses maybe they would say which sales (from 21.39 onwards) are relevant to timing the sighting.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2013, 02:14:09 AM by pegasus »

AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #558 on: November 13, 2013, 11:16:52 AM »
If only we could show the till printout to the witnesses maybe they would say which sales (from 21.39 onwards) are relevant to timing the sighting.
I've imagined Aoife looking at the photos of beige pants with buttons that Jeanne darc posted, because she could provide a solid clue. But, no, I do strongly hope that Aoife will never see those photos.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #559 on: November 13, 2013, 01:10:34 PM »
"On the evening I was wearing brown jeans/cord style trousers, a pale blue stripe top, and Jane had taken my jumper which was blue.  The nights were quite chilly which is why Jane had my jumper I am quite used to the cold." (Russell O'Brien)
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

AnneGuedes

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #560 on: November 13, 2013, 04:15:26 PM »
"On the evening I was wearing brown jeans/cord style trousers, a pale blue stripe top, and Jane had taken my jumper which was blue.  The nights were quite chilly which is why Jane had my jumper I am quite used to the cold." (Russell O'Brien)
It sounds Mr O'Brien isn't Smithman.
But the jumper was purple, not blue.

Offline Eleanor

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #561 on: November 13, 2013, 04:24:55 PM »

I am still not sure that it wasn't the same man.  Scotland Yard did not state categorically that it was not the same man.  And as far as I can see the man that Jane Tanner saw was coming from entirely the wrong direction from the night creche.

Offline jassi

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #562 on: November 13, 2013, 05:04:03 PM »
I am still not sure that it wasn't the same man.  Scotland Yard did not state categorically that it was not the same man. And as far as I can see the man that Jane Tanner saw was coming from entirely the wrong direction from the night creche.

Apparently so, but SY seem quite happy with that.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Redblossom

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #563 on: November 13, 2013, 05:12:52 PM »
if the sketches/efits are anything to go by, no it cant have been the same man.....see Tanners chin length glossy black bob man and crimewatch efits.... if anyone can put them side by side.....

Offline Eleanor

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #564 on: November 13, 2013, 05:16:49 PM »
Apparently so, but SY seem quite happy with that.

Softly, softly, catchee monkey.  You don't seriously believe that Scotland Yard are telling us what they are doing, do you?

Offline jassi

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #565 on: November 13, 2013, 05:37:58 PM »
Softly, softly, catchee monkey.  You don't seriously believe that Scotland Yard are telling us what they are doing, do you?

No, but why should they show 'new' e-fits if they are after someone else not shown in those e-ifits ? One might expect them not to say anything.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2013, 05:41:41 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline jassi

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #566 on: November 13, 2013, 05:49:18 PM »
Do you mean that Kate & Gerry might actually be suspects then ?


Heavens forbid. Go and wash your mouth out   @)(++(*
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Cariad

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #567 on: November 13, 2013, 07:21:12 PM »
I am still not sure that it wasn't the same man.  Scotland Yard did not state categorically that it was not the same man.  And as far as I can see the man that Jane Tanner saw was coming from entirely the wrong direction from the night creche.

SY have said that they've identified Tannerman but not Smithman, I'm sure they'd have asked Tannerman if he was still wandering around an hour later.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #568 on: November 13, 2013, 07:42:51 PM »
It sounds Mr O'Brien isn't Smithman.
But the jumper was purple, not blue.

Thanks Anne I've seen her purple top. I can't understand why the police didn't ask them what they were wearing.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2013, 07:45:05 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

icabodcrane

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Re: How likely is it that Jane Tanner and the Smiths saw the 'same' man ?
« Reply #569 on: November 13, 2013, 09:08:39 PM »
SY have said that they've identified Tannerman but not Smithman, I'm sure they'd have asked Tannerman if he was still wandering around an hour later.

Excellent point Cariad

Scotland Yard have identified,  questioned, and eliminated the innocent father Jane Tanner saw that night  ...  they   know  it wasn't him the Smith family saw almost an hour later

...  and still the man Jane Tanner saw is displayed on the McCann official website,  asking people to identify him

Someone mentioned  a  'wild goose chase' earlier

...  I concur