Why did Mark Warner offer a baby listening service

[Mr Gray]

I know this was not available at PDL but even after the abduction it was still on the website for other mark warner resorts

[sadie]

Any baby listening service provided by an hotel or aparthotel is not as good as the parents checking themselves.

[stephen25000]

Any baby listening service provided by an hotel or aparthotel is not as good as the parents checking themselves.

No , what would have been better was a babysitter and a locked apartment.

Didn't happen, did it ?

[sadie]

No , what would have been better was a babysitter and a locked apartment.

Didn't happen, did it ?

I dont think you can be a parent, Stephen

No way would i allow a stranger to babysit my child.   I know that others feel the same way.


More abuse of chlidren being baby sat by "friends or paid people" than ever was a chance of Madeleine vanishing as she did.

[stephen25000]

I dont think you can be a parent, Stephen

No way would i allow a stranger to babysit my child.   I know that others feel the same way.


More abuse of chlidren being baby sat by "friends or paid people" than ever was a chance of Madeleine vanishing as she did.

You really don't live in the real world.

So leaving children unprotected in an unlocked residence is good child care ?

If you think that , I doubt your sanity.

[Carana]

You really don't live in the real world.

So leaving children unprotected in an unlocked residence is good child care ?

If you think that , I doubt your sanity.

Then you'd have to also question the sanity of everyone who offers / uses a listening service in "child-friendly" accommodation anywhere.

[stephen25000]

Then you'd have to also question the sanity of everyone who offers / uses a listening service in "child-friendly" accommodation anywhere.

No system is perfect.

You have to rely on the check systems in this country including CRB.

However, ANYONE who thinks leaving children in unlocked accommodation in another country is 'safe'  is clearly delusional.

[Carana]

No system is perfect.

You have to rely on the check systems in this country including CRB.

However, ANYONE who thinks leaving children in unlocked accommodation in another country is 'safe'  is clearly delusional.

If you do regular checks on your own kids, what's the difference?

Is leaving kids in the care of babysitters who may not be UK-CRB-vetted any safer?

[stephen25000]

If you do regular checks on your own kids, what's the difference?

Is leaving kids in the care of babysitters who may not be UK-CRB-vetted any safer?

You're not answering the key point.

Was leaving 3 children in an unlocked apartment SAFE ?

[Carana]

You're not answering the key point.

Was leaving 3 children in an unlocked apartment SAFE ?

Would leaving children in the care of some young stranger have been safer?

[AnneGuedes]

Was leaving 3 children in an unlocked apartment SAFE ?

It's not only 3 children left alone in unlocked strange place, but 2 in cots + 1 in a normal bed and knowing parents can be out.
Comparatively the T/OB's eldest, the only other child to be in a bed, was in a double locked flat to make sure she wouldn't wander off.

[Mr Gray]

You're not answering the key point.

Was leaving 3 children in an unlocked apartment SAFE ?

Would it have been acceptable if the apt was locked?

[stephen25000]

Would leaving children in the care of some young stranger have been safer?

They could have used one of the staff from the creche as a babysitter, or someone recommended by the complex, so why didn't they ?

[Carana]

They could have used one of the staff from the creche as a babysitter, or someone recommended by the complex, so why didn't they ?

A listening service was available in other resorts, but not this one. They were doing the equivalent themselves. Until that fateful night, the system had worked.

[stephen25000]

A listening service was available in other resorts, but not this one. They were doing the equivalent themselves. Until that fateful night, the system had worked.

Still diverting. They could have employed someone as a babysitter. No excuses.

Leaving children in an unlocked apartment and with infrequent visits, for several nights whilst socializing, INEXCUSABLE.