What Happened Between 18:00 & 20:00 On the 3rd With The Tapas 7

[Redblossom]

You or your fellow supporters, is that better?

No, supporters only cry foul, when it is obvious translations have been deliberately altered, to causes difficulties for the McCanns and their friends.

Look forward to you furnishing  the forum with several examples of this accusation. As for bringing up translation errors as the cause of time discrepancies..... all the translators mistake times given as 7 pm with 8pm? 

Also, please provide evidence that the interpreters/translators at the tapas 9 police interviews were NOT professionals and if they were not in some way, what were they? and also answer why, at the end of each translated interview,it says, they read, ratified and signed. Why would any of them sign anything if it was not all true and correct?

[AnneGuedes]

So you think that professional experienced police officers have ruled the Tapas7 out as suspects or even as persons of interest because they are too 'trusting'?    I disagree.

They've evidently ruled the Tapas9 out as suspects/persons of interest in reviewing the abduction of Madeleine McCann. Even the sceptics don't suspect Mr McCann to have abducted for some reason his own daughter.
Didn't the MC argue there's was no evidence whatsoever that Madeleine had suffered any harm ? Cameron believed the doxa, just like you, Benice ! The redhaired one did a bit of pressure, certainly, but Cameron reflected victims of abduction are sometimes found alive. So he ordered the review.
It didn't pass his mind that Madeleine could have never been abducted, but have died in a domestic accident.. He didn't read what the AG said about the undetermined nature of the crime.

[AnneGuedes]

In six years no-one has been able to present an alternative theory to abduction which is even remotely believable  - unless you are prepared to dispense with all common sense, logic and reasoned thought first.  If I was a sceptic that would bother me.

 

This is a myth again, Benice. There are alternative theories and please don't say they lack of evidence because your abduction from bed does lack too, no more, no less (see the AG report). So why are you propagating the myth nobody was able to build an alternative theory as valid as you abduction from bed one, as if this was the best argument to proclaim valid your speculative abduction from bed ?
Theories are many, not just Amaral's one and Benice's one. There's for instance an abduction from public space theory. But it doesn't suit you, does it ? SY might be studying it.

[Redblossom]

They've evidently ruled the Tapas9 out as suspects/persons of interest in reviewing the abduction of Madeleine McCann. Even the sceptics don't suspect Mr McCann to have abducted for some reason his own daughter

Very astute Anne, that neved crossed my mind!
 

[Benice]

This is a myth again, Benice. There are alternative theories and please don't say they lack of evidence because your abduction from bed does lack too, no more, no less (see the AG report). So why are you propagating the myth nobody was able to build an alternative theory as valid as you abduction from bed one, as if this was the best argument to proclaim valid your speculative abduction from bed ?
Theories are many, not just Amaral's one and Benice's one. There's for instance an abduction from public space theory. But it doesn't suit you, does it ? SY might be studying it.

Well tell me one of these credible theories Anne.  That's all I've ever asked.

Starting with... Madeleine had an accident and died in the apartment  then....................what? why? and how?

(or any other feasible theory you can think of)

I can promise you I will read it with a completely open mind.

[Redblossom]

Well tell me one of these credible theories Anne.  That's all I've ever asked.

Starting with... Madeleine had an accident and died in the apartment  then....................what? why? and how?

(or any other feasible theory you can think of)

I can promise you I will read it with a completely open mind.

Why does anyone have to have a theory credible or not to prove that something could have happened

Its a stupid question

Why dont you produce a theory of something you might believe happened but which has been rejected by a court

Jill  Dando murdered professionally
OJ Simpson murdering his wife
Casey Anthony  killing her daughter
etc etc

Madeleine was last seen at 5.30 that dsy, the rest  is hearsayand statements from non independent  people, and it is suspicious when they contradict  each other by miles

Off to make stuffed tomatoes and peppers, see  u later

[Rachel Granada]

Well tell me one of these credible theories Anne.  That's all I've ever asked.

Starting with... Madeleine had an accident and died in the apartment  then....................what? why? and how?

(or any other feasible theory you can think of)

I can promise you I will read it with a completely open mind.

From your post, Benice: Starting with... Madeleine had an accident and died in the apartment  then....................what? why? and how?

I've posed this question several times, asking how the McCanns could have "done it" in the 4.5 hour time frame.  I have yet to receive a response.

[faithlilly]

From your post, Benice: Starting with... Madeleine had an accident and died in the apartment  then....................what? why? and how?

I've posed this question several times, asking how the McCanns could have "done it" in the 4.5 hour time frame.  I have yet to receive a response.

There are many ways they could have done it but until you accept that their psychology would allow them to do it you will never admit recognise that.

[AnneGuedes]

Well tell me one of these credible theories Anne.  That's all I've ever asked.

Starting with... Madeleine had an accident and died in the apartment  then....................what? why? and how?

(or any other feasible theory you can think of)

I can promise you I will read it with a completely open mind.

Benice, I don't have A theory ! I'm a sceptic, even (or rather firstly) concerning my own speculations !
Amaral had an alternative theory to abduction, it might have in part frozen by now. I don't agree with this theory.
In one of my hypotheses and because I trust Prof Harrison and the Martin/Eddie team, Madeleine fell from the balcony just after her parents left the flat.
I'm prone to imagine those kids had some benzodiazepin in the milk they used to drink at story time (on the 3rd it was just after their high tea). It is the only explanation I can find to the miracle of 3 kids getting asleep at the same time, in the same room, in a strange place, every night.
You surely remember the Stones
"Things are different today,"
I hear ev'ry mother say
Mother needs something today to calm her down
And though she's not really ill
There's a little yellow pill
She goes running for the shelter of her mother's little helper
And it helps her on her way, gets her through her busy day.

But a scared child will not get asleep with benzodiazepins which don't knock out but have a soothing effect. So my guess is Madeleine heard her parents leave and got out of her bed and tried to find out where they were. My guess is also she was dizzy and more vulnerable.

[Rachel Granada]

There are many ways they could have done it but until you accept that their psychology would allow them to do it you will never admit recognise that.

So.  You're a qualified psychologist who has examined both Kate and Gerry McCann then? Do tell.  Which University did you gain your qualifications and what dates did you examine the McCanns?

How did they do it in the 4.5 hours then?

[stephen25000]

So.  You're a qualified psychologist who has examined both Kate and Gerry McCann then? Do tell.  Which University did you gain your qualifications and what dates did you examine the McCanns?

How did they do it in the 4.5 hours then?

What is this fixation with 4.5 hours ?

Were you there ?

How do you know a  body could not have been hidden and moved subsequently ?

How do you know the Mccanns didn't lie ?

Do you believe potential suspects always tell the truth ?

Are you an expect in psychology ?

[DCI]

Benice, I don't have A theory ! I'm a sceptic, even (or rather firstly) concerning my own speculations !
Amaral had an alternative theory to abduction, it might have in part frozen by now. I don't agree with this theory.
In one of my hypotheses and because I trust Prof Harrison and the Martin/Eddie team, Madeleine fell from the balcony just after her parents left the flat.
I'm prone to imagine those kids had some benzodiazepin in the milk they used to drink at story time (on the 3rd it was just after their high tea). It is the only explanation I can find to the miracle of 3 kids getting asleep at the same time, in the same room, in a strange place, every night.
You surely remember the Stones
"Things are different today,"
I hear ev'ry mother say
Mother needs something today to calm her down
And though she's not really ill
There's a little yellow pill
She goes running for the shelter of her mother's little helper
And it helps her on her way, gets her through her busy day.

But a scared child will not get asleep with benzodiazepins which don't knock out but have a soothing effect. So my guess is Madeleine heard her parents leave and got out of her bed and tried to find out where they were. My guess is also she was dizzy and more vulnerable.

Anne, why are you so obsessed with Benzodiazepines, a medication used to treat anxiety, and how it was administered? in your words "put in the milk they used to drink at story time".
So you are accusing the McCann's of drugging their children! That is libel.

[DCI]

What is this fixation with 4.5 hours ?

Were you there ?

How do you know a  body could not have been hidden and moved subsequently ?

How do you know the Mccanns didn't lie ?

Do you believe potential suspects always tell the truth ?

Are you an expect in psychology ?

What is this fixation with 4.5 hours ?  5.30 till 10 = 4.5 hours

Were you there ? Were you?

How do you know a  body could not have been hidden and moved subsequently ?

How do you know the Mccanns didn't lie ? How do you know they did?

Do you believe potential suspects always tell the truth ? Do you?

Are you an expect in psychology ? No idea what an expect in psychology, is.

[Rachel Granada]

What is this fixation with 4.5 hours ?

Were you there ?

How do you know a  body could not have been hidden and moved subsequently ?

How do you know the Mccanns didn't lie ?

Do you believe potential suspects always tell the truth ?

Are you an expect in psychology ?

Why do I need to be an expert in psychology to ask for a credible theory as to how they could have "done it" in the 4.5 hours that we are being expected to believe. From last being seen by an independent witness to the alarm being raised at 10pm.

A body hidden and moved subsequently... how would they have done that then?  Interested to hear your take on that.

[stephen25000]

Why do I need to be an expert in psychology to ask for a credible theory as to how they could have "done it" in the 4.5 hours that we are being expected to believe. From last being seen by an independent witness to the alarm being raised at 10pm.

A body hidden and moved subsequently... how would they have done that then?  Interested to hear your take on that.

Done what exactly ?

In those 4.5 hours where the Mccanns under scrutiny all the time ?

Were they under scrutiny afterwards 24 hours a day, i.e. under surveillance ?

Highly unlikely, as the PJ were searching for an abducted child, until they found no evidence of that, and the UK police suggested the PJ investigate the parents.