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Offline Carana

Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #480 on: September 07, 2013, 11:27:15 AM »
From reading Amaral's book and the interim report i think the officers were of the view that the Tanner sighting was false.

From memory they did not believe that Tanner could have walked past them without either Gerry or Jez seeing her, or indeed seen the same man Tanner claims to have seen walking across the top of the street.

There may have been another contributing issue: the initial eggman "e-fit". Amaral may not have realised that Jane couldn't provide the details necessary for a traditional e-fit portrait of the person as she saw him from the side, nor that the police didn't have software or a police artist to reconstruct her description.

He may have thought she was being obtuse for nefarious reasons in producing a blank face.

I could sort of understand that (if that were the case), but then I wonder how he could not know what forensic resources the police actually had...







Offline faithlilly

Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #481 on: September 07, 2013, 11:30:35 AM »
There may have been another contributing issue: the initial eggman "e-fit". Amaral may not have realised that Jane couldn't provide the details necessary for a traditional e-fit portrait of the person as she saw him from the side, nor that the police didn't have software or a police artist to reconstruct her description.

He may have thought she was being obtuse for nefarious reasons in producing a blank face.

I could sort of understand that (if that were the case), but then I wonder how he could not know what forensic resources the police actually had...

Rebelo also doubted Tanner's sighting. The reasons the reconstruction was needed demonstrates this.
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Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #482 on: September 07, 2013, 11:34:04 AM »
Sketches executed with the indications of a witness didn't wait computer software and e-fits to exist !
Ms Tanner had obviously a mental block about the face, as the picture produced 5 months later shows (meanwhile her memory had improved, but the face curiously remained a complete blank).

Offline faithlilly

Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #483 on: September 07, 2013, 12:05:22 PM »
From reading Amaral's book and the interim report i think the officers were of the view that the Tanner sighting was false.

From memory they did not believe that Tanner could have walked past them without either Gerry or Jez seeing her, or indeed seen the same man Tanner claims to have seen walking across the top of the street.

Indeed Albertini. From the AG's Archiving Dispatch :

'Addressing now, and specifically, the question relative to the diligence known as the "reconstitution of the facts" (Article 150º of the Penal Process Code), which was not performed due to the refusal of some of the integral members of the holiday group to return to our country (as documented in the Inquiry), the same would have clarified, duly and in the location of the disappearance, the following extremely important details, amongst others:

pages 55 and 56

. The physical, real and effective, proximity between JANE TANNER, GERALD McCANN and JEREMY WILKINS, at the moment when the former passed them, and which coincided with the sighting of the supposed suspect, carrying a child. It results, from our understanding, as unusual that neither GERALD McCANN nor JEREMY WILKINS did not see her, nor the alleged abductor, despite the small dimensions of the space;'
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

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Offline Carana

Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #484 on: September 07, 2013, 12:15:32 PM »
Sketches executed with the indications of a witness didn't wait computer software and e-fits to exist !
Ms Tanner had obviously a mental block about the face, as the picture produced 5 months later shows (meanwhile her memory had improved, but the face curiously remained a complete blank).

So where is the PJ's artist's sketch of bundleman?

Where is one of the Smith sighting?

Offline John

Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #485 on: September 07, 2013, 06:07:30 PM »
Leaked? She didn't look at all reluctant to be in front of the cameras. Quite the opposite.

Just say for the sake of it that Murat had been so stupid or so naive as to have abducted a little girl on his own doorstep, does anyone think for a moment that he would have returned minutes later to the scene or would have made his presence known to the police and press the following day?   Only a deranged idiot would have done such a thing and Murat is certainly not that.
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Offline John

Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #486 on: September 07, 2013, 06:20:31 PM »
As far as the Jane Tanner sighting is concerned I have no reason for not believing it.  Having viewed the reconstruction video I find it very hard to believe that she was anything other than truthful and honest.

Gerry and Jez were both far enough down the road so as not to have noticed Bundleman.  I do find it strange however that neither of them saw Jane passing especially when there was a streetlight nearby.
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Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #487 on: September 07, 2013, 06:58:50 PM »
Leaked? She didn't look at all reluctant to be in front of the cameras. Quite the opposite.

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Offline Angelo222

Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #488 on: September 07, 2013, 07:11:02 PM »
What's your point DCI.   You asked me who said that they were suspicious of the McCanns early on and I told you.   No mystery mate!!
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Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #489 on: September 07, 2013, 07:21:13 PM »
What's your point DCI.   You asked me who said that they were suspicious of the McCanns early on and I told you.   No mystery mate!!

The point is the dates, Angelo. You said it was from Jane's statement on 13th June 2007 at the Portimao DIC.

I pointed out it was from her 14th November 2007 statement, 5 months later.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #490 on: September 08, 2013, 02:15:05 AM »
The point is the dates, Angelo. You said it was from Jane's statement on 13th June 2007 at the Portimao DIC.

I pointed out it was from her 14th November 2007 statement, 5 months later.

Oh I see.  Point is though, regardless of when she made the statements she made the point that she doubted the parents credibility from day 1.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #491 on: September 08, 2013, 02:25:50 AM »
Thanks for posting that video link Red. 

That silly cow is such a knobhead!!  I hope Robert sues her f..king ass off!  It never ceases to amaze me how far these reporters are up their own backsides.  Who the hell does she think she is that Lori Campbell?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #492 on: September 08, 2013, 02:48:40 AM »
She was suspicious of him just because he wouldn't give her his life story.  Jesssus give me strength!!
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Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #493 on: September 08, 2013, 03:05:23 AM »
Why she "became suspicious"  ? "Rob became very concerned when he noticed his photo being taken by the Mirror's photographer" !!!

Offline John

Re: Why did Amaral and PJ suspect the McCanns and Murat as being somehow involved?
« Reply #494 on: September 08, 2013, 03:25:14 AM »
Why she "became suspicious"  ? "Rob became very concerned when he noticed his photo being taken by the Mirror's photographer" !!!

I know exactly how he felt. Just recently I had a reporter from a Scottish rag trying to get info from me for free.  I just ignored him.   
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.